<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">This is a very short term problem. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The market is going to fill with battery storage sooner rather than later. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Solar is just exploding. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your car will "house tie".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">6G will solve your data problem. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">D</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><pre class="k9mail" style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: sans-serif; margin-top: 0px;">-- <br>Don Gould<br>5 Cargill Place<br>Richmond<br>Christchurch, New Zealand<br>Mobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699<br><a href="http://www.tusker.net.au/">www.</a>bowenvale.co.nz<br><br></pre></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> </div><div>Date: 26/12/19 2:33 PM (GMT+12:00) </div><div>To: nanog@nanog.org </div><div>Subject: power to the internet </div><div><br></div></div><br>https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/25/california-power-shutoffs-089678<br><br><br>This article details some of the issues with California's "new reality" <br>of planned blackouts. One of the big things that came to light with <br>these blackouts is that our network infrastructure's resilience is <br>pretty lacking. While I was (surprisingly to me) ok with my DSL <br>connection out in the boonies, lots and lots of people with cable <br>weren't so lucky. And I'm not sure how bad the situation is with <br>cellular infrastructure, but I assume it's not much better than cable. <br>And I wouldn't doubt that other DSL deployments go dark when power is <br>down. I have no clue with fiber.<br><br>So I guess what I'm wondering is what can we do about this? What should <br>we do about this? These days IP access is not just convenience, it's the <br>way we go about our lives, just like electricity itself. At base, it <br>seems to me that network operators should be required to keep the lights <br>on in blackouts just like POTS operators do now. If I have power to <br>light my modem or charge in my phone, I should be able to get onto the <br>net. That seems like table stakes.<br><br>One of the things we learned also is that the blackouts seem to last <br>between 2-3 days apiece. I happen to have a generator since I'm out in <br>the boonies and our power gets cut regularly because of snow, but not <br>everyone has that luxury. I kind of want to think that my router+modem <br>use about 20 watts, so powering it up would take about 1.5kwh for 3 <br>days. a quick google look shows that I'd probably need to shell out $500 <br>or so for a battery of that capacity, and that's doesn't include your <br>phones, laptops, tv's, etc power needs. What does that mean? That is a <br>major expense for a lot of people.<br><br>On the bright side, I hear that power generator companies stocks have <br>gone through the roof.<br><br>On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and <br>countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh.<br><br>Mike<br><br></body></html>