<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>I can't imagine many telcos are making a lot of money from voice anymore.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>bzs@theworld.com<br><b>To: </b>"nanog" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:11:17 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls<br><br><br>They should be fining the telcos, they're making a lot of money on<br>these calls.<br><br>And if you believe otherwise (e.g., that it's like email spam) you've<br>been duped by telco PR.<br><br>Unlike spam when was the last time a telco failed to bill you for a<br>billable phone call? Never.<br><br>They know exactly who is using their system. And they get paid for<br>it. And these junk callers are making millions of calls per hour when<br>they're active.<br><br>The entire telco infrastructure has been described as a billing system<br>with some added voice features.<br><br>Try devising a box which makes millions of voice calls per hour and<br>see how long it takes before you're stopped dead until you agree to<br>pay the telcos for those calls, or get arrested.<br><br>-- <br> -Barry Shein<br><br>Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com<br>Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD<br>The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*<br></div><br></div></body></html>