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    <p>I heard good stuff about Cisco Virl. It's like an ESX for network
      devices.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-10-16 15:23, Jason Kuehl wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I use the server version of GNS and I love it.  I
        just need to VPN into my DC and use my client to connect to GNS.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:22
          PM Mike Bolitho <<a href="mailto:mikebolitho@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">mikebolitho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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              style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">EVE-NG is
              also really good. Just an FYI, GNS3 went through a major
              refresh about 18 months ago or so and it's so much better
              now. Either way, you can't go wrong with GNS3 or EVE-NG.</div>
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                    - Mike Bolitho</font></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at
              11:18 AM Aaron Gould <<a href="mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aaron1@gvtc.com</a>>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">Oh,
                      forgot the links…</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><a
                        href="http://www.eve-ng.net/" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.eve-ng.net/</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><a
href="http://www.eve-ng.net/documentation/howto-s" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.eve-ng.net/documentation/howto-s</a></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> NANOG [mailto:<a
                            href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog-bounces@nanog.org</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aaron Gould<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:14
                          PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> 'Mike Bolitho'; 'Tom Beecher';
                          'Ryland Kremeier'<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> RE: Viability of GNS3 network
                          simulation for testing
                          features/configurations.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">I’ve
                      used GNS3 some years ago for a lot of simulation
                      and testing.  But, I’m blown away at how much more
                      I like EVE-NG (emulated virtual environment
                      next-gen)</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">I
                      use the community free version… lots of vendor OS
                      support… of which, I’ve actually work with the
                      following….</span></p>
                  <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><span>-<span
                          style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">       
                        </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">XRv</span></p>
                  <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><span>-<span
                          style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">       
                        </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">IOS
                      virtual</span></p>
                  <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><span>-<span
                          style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">       
                        </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">vMX</span></p>
                  <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><span>-<span
                          style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">       
                        </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">vSRX</span></p>
                  <p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><span>-<span
                          style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">       
                        </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">vQFX</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">…check
                      your in-box for a screen shot of my current
                      environment.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,84,106)">-Aaron</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> NANOG [mailto:<a
                        href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog-bounces@nanog.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Bolitho<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:02 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Tom Beecher<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: Viability of GNS3 network
                      simulation for testing features/configurations.</span></p>
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                          style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Totally
                          agree with Tom here. It's going to work really
                          well for most things. But if you're testing
                          code for bugs you NEED to do it on the same
                          hardware you have in your environment in an
                          actual lab.</span></p>
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                              - Mike Bolitho</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:56
                        AM Tom Beecher <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:beecher@beecher.cc"><beecher@beecher.cc></a> wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">GNS3 can do a heck of a
                            lot, and the price is definitely right. </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">I have used it
                            extensively for initial fleshing out of
                            designs or ideas, protocol nerding,
                            automation interaction testing, etc. There
                            certainly other tools out there, but being
                            able to visually draw a topology out,
                            connect the dots, and have an environment to
                            test in about 10 minutes is very nice. There
                            is an API you can hook into to do some of
                            that for you if you are so inclined, but
                            that would depend on your use case and
                            resources. For how I've used it, never been
                            required. </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Some of the VMs from
                            vendors can be pretty CPU and/or RAM
                            intensive, so I've had the best experience
                            running them all on a dedicated server, not
                            locally. Again, use case dependent. For code
                            testing I would always run the test set on
                            hardware as well for likely obvious
                            reasons. </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">If you really get into
                            the weeds with it you can do quite a lot.</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at
                              11:52 AM Ryland Kremeier <<a
                                href="mailto:rkremeier@barryelectric.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rkremeier@barryelectric.com</a>>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">I’m currently in
                                  the process of setting up a near
                                  identical network to our own in GNS3
                                  for testing purposes. Has anyone here
                                  tried this before to any success? We
                                  need to buy the Cisco IOSv image to
                                  continue with the sim so I figured I
                                  would inquire here first before diving
                                  in.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">All info is
                                  appreciated,</p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">-- </p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Ryland Kremeier</p>
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      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Sincerely,<br>
         <br>
        Jason W Kuehl<br>
        Cell 920-419-8983<br>
        <a href="mailto:jason.w.kuehl@gmail.com" target="_blank"
          moz-do-not-send="true">jason.w.kuehl@gmail.com</a></div>
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