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<div>Not really. The customer provides the content on its own servers. The CDN simply redistributes the content via temporary caching. It’s not a web hosting provider. The CDN _customer_ hosts the content. <br>
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On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke <<a href="mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com">eric.kuhnke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>A CDN is a hosting company. It is the logical continuation and evolution of what an httpd hosting/server colo company was twenty years ago, but with more geographical scale and a great deal more automation tools.<br>
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<div>I have never in my life seen a medium to large-sized hosting company that didn't have a ToS reserving the right to discontinue service at any time for arbitrary reasons.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 7:28 PM Mel Beckman <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org">mel@beckman.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Valdis,<br>
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A CDN is very much an ISP. It is providing transport for its customers from arbitrary Internet destinations, to the customer’s content. The caching done by a CDN is incidental to this transport, in accordance with the DMCA.
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The alternative is that you believe CDNs are not protected by safe Harbor. Is that the case?<br>
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> On Aug 5, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Valdis Klētnieks <<a href="mailto:valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu" target="_blank">valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:40:43 -0000, Mel Beckman said:<br>
>> The key misunderstanding on your part is the phrase “on your servers”. ISPs<br>
>> acting as conduits do not, by definition (in the DMCA), store anything on<br>
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> Note that ISPs whose business is 100% "acting as conduits" are in the minority.<br>
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> Hint: The DMCA has the text about data stored on ISP servers because many ISPs<br>
> aren't mere conduits. And this thread got started regarding a CDN, which is very much<br>
> all about storing data on servers.....<br>
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