<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">The agreement in using the space specifically has you agree you were not using it for commercial purposes.<br><br>Don’t be quick to jump to assumptions, we are an ISP but applied for a/24 so that we could advertise it out because we have a large number of amateur radio repeaters another amateur radio devices on our network.</div><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Joe Carroll <<a href="mailto:joe@theneutral.net">joe@theneutral.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">I’ll add to this in saying that I’m a qualified amateur radio licensed </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Two issues:</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’ve been denied access to the space twice.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Commercial entities are advertising within the space that are not amateur related. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The fish smell permeates.... </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 07:34 William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jay R. Ashworth <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "William Herrin" <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>><br>
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> Personally I've never heard of ARDC. <br>
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Amateur Radio Digital Communications is the name that's been on 44/8 every <br>
time I've ever looked at the /8 list, which goes back 2 decades or more.<br>
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I never assumed it was an organization at the time.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah... It just seems like holding an asset in trust for a population and selling that asset without consulting that population (or at least consulting the organizations the population commonly understands to represent them) is very fishy business.</div><div><br></div><div>Having read their explanation, I think the folks involved had good reasons and the best intentions but this stinks like fraud to me. Worse, it looks like ARIN was complicit in the fraud -- encouraging and then supporting the folks involved as they established a fiefdom of their own rather than integrating with the organizations that existed. The "appearance of impropriety" is then magnified by ARIN deeming the matter a private transaction between it and the alleged registrants to which the pubic is not entitled to a detailed accounting.<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Bill Herrin</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_5803582020633506796gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>William Herrin</div><div><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a></div><div><a href="https://bill.herrin.us/" target="_blank">https://bill.herrin.us/</a><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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