<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote>legacy system).<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote><font color="#007dbb" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 125, 187);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I have never thought of myself as subshell, even on a low carbohydrate system</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote>netstat is now mostly obsolete. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote>Replacement for netstat is ss. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote>Replacement for netstat -r is ip route.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote>Replacement for netstat -i is ip -s link.<br class="">Replacement for netstat -g is ip maddr.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Microsoft (Windows, that is) and Apple macOS have no knowledge of ss.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>That is why I use netstat often, but never netstat -s to diagnose routing. (Hi, Randy.)</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; font-size: 12px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">James R. Cutler</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><a href="mailto:James.cutler@consultant.com" class="">James.cutler@consultant.com</a></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">GPG keys: <a href="hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net" class="">hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net</a></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></body></html>