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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/07/2019 20:41, Job Snijders
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 3:33 PM Mike Hammett <<a
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like do whatever you want in your own house as long as
you don't infringe upon others.</div>
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<div>That's where the rub is; when using "BGP optimisers" to
influence public Internet routing, you cannot guarantee you
won't infringe upon others.</div>
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<div>The argument against route optimizers (assuming
appropriate ingress\egress filters) is a religious one
and should be treated as such. <br>
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<p>There is a difference between BGP optimizers and route
optimizers. When was the last time you heard a complain about
Akamai screwing up the global routing table over the past 12
years:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.akamai.com/us/en/about/news/press/2007-press/akamai-introduces-advanced-communications-protocol-for-accelerating-dynamic-applications.jsp">https://www.akamai.com/us/en/about/news/press/2007-press/akamai-introduces-advanced-communications-protocol-for-accelerating-dynamic-applications.jsp</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://developer.akamai.com/legacy/learn/Optimization/SureRoute.html">https://developer.akamai.com/legacy/learn/Optimization/SureRoute.html</a><br>
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<p>-Hank<br>
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