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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Luthman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Prasun Dey<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe I'm missing something but it's as simple as looking at the interface graphs. We see a whole lot of green for inbound and a little little blue line for outbound. We are an ISP with residential and commercial customers.<br clear="all">
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Office: 937-552-2340<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM Prasun Dey <<a href="mailto:prasun@nevada.unr.edu">prasun@nevada.unr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your detailed explanation. Let me explain my requirement so that you may help me better.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">According to PeeringDB, Charter (Access), Sprint (Transit), Amazon (Content) all three of them are ‘Balanced’. While, Cable One, an Access ISP says it is Heavy Inbound, while Akamai, Netflix (Content) are Heavy Outbound. On the other hand,
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)? From an ISP’s own point of view, at what point, it says, my outbound:inbound is something, so I’m Heavy
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please ignore my lack of knowledge in this area. I’m sorry I should’ve done a better job in formulating my question earlier.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Prasun<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">web: <a href="https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/" target="_blank">https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:13 PM, <a href="http://i3D.net" target="_blank">
i3D.net</a> - Martijn Schmidt <<a href="mailto:martijnschmidt@i3d.net" target="_blank">martijnschmidt@i3d.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It kinda depends on the application that's being used. For example, videogaming has a ratio somewhere around 1:2.5 since you're only transmitting metadata about the players environment across the wire. The actual
video is typically rendered at the end user's side. So it's not very bandwidth heavy.
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Compare that with a videostream (watching a movie or TV series) and you're pumping the rendered video across the wire, so there's a very different ratio. Your return path traffic would pretty much consist of control stuff only (like pushing the pause button).<br>
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Some networks are dedicated to serving one type of content, whereas others might have a blend of different kinds of content. Same story for an access network geared to business users which want to use emails and such, vs residential end users looking for the
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19 June 2019 19:54:45 CEST, Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you're asking an ISP, consumers will always be inbound. It's the end user. The outbound would be where the information is coming from, like data centers.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure you're going to get any better answer without a more specific question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Prasun Dey <<a href="mailto:prasun@nevada.unr.edu" target="_blank">prasun@nevada.unr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody","serif"">I’m a Ph.D. candidate from University of Central Florida. I have a query, I hope you can help me with it or at least point me to the right direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody","serif"">I’ve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP reveals its traffic ratio as Heavy/ Mostly Inbound or Balanced or Heavy/ Mostly Outbound. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody","serif"">I’m wondering if there is any specific ratio numbers for them. In Norton’s Internet Peering Playbook or some other literary work, they mention the outbound:inbound
traffic ratio as 1:1.2 to up to 1:3 for Balanced. But, I couldn’t find the other values.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody","serif"">I’d really appreciate your help if you can please mention what Outbound:Inbound ratios that network admins use frequently to represent their traffic ratios for <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody","serif"">1. Heavy Inbound:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Prasun<o:p></o:p></p>
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Prasun Kanti Dey,<br>
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University of Central Florida.<o:p></o:p></p>
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