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<b><font color="#000000">From:</font></b><font color="#000000"> NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf@dessus.com></font><br>
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<b><font color="#000000">Sent:</font></b><font color="#000000"> Saturday, May 4, 2019 3:14:53 AM</font><br>
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<b><font color="#000000">To:</font></b><font color="#000000"> NANOG list</font><br>
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<b><font color="#000000">Cc:</font></b><font color="#000000"> Constantine A. Murenin</font><br>
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<b><font color="#000000">Subject:</font></b><font color="#000000"> [EXT] RE: Widespread Firefox issues</font>
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HTTPS: has nothing to do with the website being "secure". https: means that transport layer security (encryption) is in effect. https: is a PRIVACY measure, not a SECURITY measure.
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The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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>From: NANOG [ <a href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org">mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org</a>] On Behalf Of Constantine
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>A. Murenin <br>
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>Sent: Friday, 3 May, 2019 21:02 <br>
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>To: Brielle Bruns <br>
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>Cc: NANOG list <br>
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>Subject: Re: Widespread Firefox issues <br>
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>On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 20:57, Brielle Bruns <bruns@2mbit.com> wrote: <br>
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> Just an FYI since this is bound to impact users: <br>
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> <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973</a>
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> Basically, Mozilla forgot to renew an intermediate cert, and <br>
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>people's <br>
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> Firefox browsers have mass-disabled addons. <br>
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> Whoops. <br>
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>This is why it's important that every single website on the internet <br>
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>is available ONLY over HTTPS. Don't forget to install an HSTS <br>
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>policy, too, so, if anyone ever visits Kazakhstan or a security- <br>
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>conscious corporate office, they'll be prevented from accessing the <br>
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>cute pictures of cats on your fully static website. Of course, don't <br>
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>forget to abandon HTTP, too, and simply issue 301 Moved Permanently <br>
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>redirects from all HTTP targets to HTTPS, to cover all the bases. <br>
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>Backwards compatibility? Don't you worry � no browser lets anyone <br>
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>remove HSTS, once installed, so, you're golden. And HTTPS links <br>
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>won't fallback to HTTP, either, so, you're good there, too � your <br>
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>cute cats are safe and secure, and once folks link to your new site <br>
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>under https://, your future self will be safe and secure from ever <br>
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>having the option to go insecure again. I mean, why would anyone go <br>
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>"insecure"? Especially now with LetsEncrypt? <br>
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>Oh, wait� <br>
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>Wait a moment, and who's the biggest player behind the HTTPS-only <br>
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>movement? Oh, and Mozilla's one of the biggest backers of <br>
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>LetsEncrypt, too? I see� Well, nothing to see here, move along! <br>
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>#TooBigToFail. <br>
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I may be wrong and if so, I am happy to be corrected, but I don't think that statement is entirely true. The certificate not only encrypts the connection, it also verifies that you are connecting to the server you intend to. That second component is a security
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