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<div name="messageBodySection" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(39, 39, 40);">feeling cranky, are we, job? </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(39, 39, 40);">(accusing an antispam expert of spamming on a mailing list by having too long a .sig?)</span>
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<div>but it’s true! anne runs the internet, and the rest of us (except for ICANN GAC representatives) all accept that. <br /></div>
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<div>to actually try to make a more substantial point, i am quite curious how the AUPs of carriers try to disallow bandwidth resale while permitting</div>
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<li>cybercafe operations and other “free wifi" (where internet service might be provided for patrons in a hotel or cafe)</li>
<li>wireless access point schemes where you make money or get credit for allowing use of your bandwidth (e.g. Fon)</li>
<li>other proxy services that use bandwidth such as tor exit nodes and openvpn gateways</li>
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<div>i suppose they could just try to disallow resale or allow on-premises use even if revenue is received. the Fon business model seems pretty comparable to me.</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif;">On Apr 24, 2019, 10:51 PM -0700, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #1abc9c;">Dear Anne,<br />
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:07:51PM -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #e67e22;">How can this not be a violation of the ToS of just about every major provider?<br /></blockquote>
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Can you perhaps cite ToS excerpts from one or more major providers to<br />
support your assertion?<br />
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<blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #e67e22;">Anne P. Mitchell,<br />
Attorney at Law<br />
GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant<br />
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)<br />
Legislative Consultant<br />
CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy<br />
Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange<br />
Board of Directors, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop<br />
Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute<br />
Legal Counsel: The Earth Law Center<br />
California Bar Association<br />
Cal. Bar Cyberspace Law Committee<br />
Colorado Cyber Committee<br />
Ret. Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of San Jose<br />
Ret. Chair, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop<br /></blockquote>
<br />
Are you listing all the above because you are presenting a formal<br />
position supported by all these organisations about ToS? Can you for<br />
instance clarify how signing of as a director for the Denver Internet<br />
Exchange shapes the context of your ToS message?<br />
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Or, perhaps you are listing the above for some kind of self-marketing<br />
purposes? If that is the case, please note that it is fairly uncommon to<br />
use the NANOG mailing list to distribute resumes. I know numerous<br />
websites dedicated to the dissemination of work histories, perhaps you<br />
can use those instead of operational mailling list?<br />
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Regards,<br />
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Job<br />
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ps. RFC 3676 section 4.3<br /></blockquote>
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