<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Hey Mike.</div><div><br></div><div>Agreed. But the scale of a 400 page document with global interest? Should be highly cached with a good ratio of served to pull bits. I'm willing to bet you a beer its just another day on the Internet. However, I could be wrong. Hope to see you in DC to collect! I already know Brett is in. :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>-M<<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:21 AM <<a href="mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com">mike.lyon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Oh spiffy! </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Will be interesting to see if there are any problems then.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Mike</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Apr 17, 2019, at 21:14, Brett Watson <<a href="mailto:brett@the-watsons.org" target="_blank">brett@the-watsons.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Or maybe do this (faster than nanog archives) :) <div><br><div><br></div><div><div 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style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>NS<span class="gmail-m_5905157544884115275Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><a href="http://a13-65.akam.net" target="_blank">a13-65.akam.net</a>.</span></div><div><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 17, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_5905157544884115275Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">Check the nANOG archives for examples of <a href="http://whitehouse.gov/" target="_blank">whitehouse.gov</a>, <a href="http://cia.gov/" target="_blank">cia.gov</a> etc. It certainly is. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 23:34 <<a href="mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.lyon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Isn’t this why god invented CDNs? Though, i doubt the govment is Akamized...</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Mike</div></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br>On Apr 17, 2019, at 20:26, Mark Seiden <<a href="mailto:mis@seiden.com" target="_blank">mis@seiden.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div><span>of course p2p is the way to distribute this but i doubt the justice department can admit there is any positive legitimate use for p2p.</span><br></div>
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<div>(i sure hope there’s a signed version or at least a hash.)<br>
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<div>i predict there will be versions with fake content, missing content, and malware inserted that are distributed as well.<br>
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<div>and i’ll bet there will be some infected pdf version as well distributed that way.</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection" style="font-size:14px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,sans-serif">On Apr 17, 2019, 7:57 PM -0700, fwessling--- via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>>, wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid rgb(26,188,156)">And we may still see the web stack being the ultimate cause of the delay.<br>
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Parkinson's law always comes to the rescue:-)<br>
More faster and efficient processing architecture, Hyper transport buses, amd-64 Branch prediction.<br>
Massively faster storage subsystems and disk arrays, SSD slab caching for hypervisors<br>
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And some dude with a AJAX framework to serve a PDF bringging the whole thing to a a screeching halt<br>
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On April 17, 2019 10:35:29 PM EDT, Sean Donelan <<a href="mailto:sean@donelan.com" target="_blank">sean@donelan.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid rgb(230,126,34)">On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid rgb(52,152,219)">Things will probably be easier this time. The Internet has evolved<br></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid rgb(52,152,219)">of dealing with exactly this problem. (Avi used to call it “slash-dot<br></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid rgb(52,152,219)">insurance”, but the idea is the same.) Specifically:<br></blockquote>
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Yep, it will be interesting to see where the chokepoints are tommorrow.<br>
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In 1998, the bandwidth pipes never filled up. The chokepoint was in the<br>
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TCP and Web stacks. Eventually the Associated Press got a copy of the<br>
Starr Report on a CD from a congressional staffer. The press intern<br>
running down the street holding a CD was faster than 1998 internet :-)<br>
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We were also lucky in 1998, no one had thought of DDOS yet.<br></blockquote>
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