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<p>You mean like pulse dialing and stepper relays vs touch tone
dialing?</p>
<p>I'm sure there were people that felt the same about that too.</p>
<p>That mindset is simply you already paid for the old stuff, it's
working fine, you would rather not understand or think about the
problems the new tech solves or benefits it provides.</p>
<p>To be motivated to do something you have to have a reason or
goal.<br>
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<p>Most all goal seeking behavior in business can be put two
buckets: 1) revenue at risk and 2) revenue enabled.</p>
<p>i.e. one is going away from pain and the other is going towards a
reward.</p>
<p>Making a plan is based on your perception of current and future
events.<br>
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<p>At scale the market does a whole lot of testing of economic
fitness functions that are the result of the decisions of each of
our companies makes about what all of this means.</p>
<p>If you were an independent telephone company around 1955 to 1965
with relay based switches deciding when and if and why to use DTMF
or a variant, I'm sure there was exactly the same dynamic.
Situation: telecom company with old technology that was still
working trying to decide what to do.<br>
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<p>I mean, your phones still worked on that day you were starting
out the window musing about it. Why not just go to lunch and
forget about it?<br>
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<p>While you were out to lunch after putting off deciding what to do
about your relay switches around the same period of time the
global phone system was growing at a breakneck speed and the first
submarine transatlantic telephone cable system was getting run.<br>
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<p>Some people won't like this story because it is about making
business decisions about technology when you aren't sure of the
reasons to either do or not do something and isn't arguing about
some specific concrete reason to add IPv6 support like: 1) the
world has more people than IPv4 addresses or something 2) you work
for a big company and would like your revenue from the Internet to
keep growing over the next 10 years uninterrupted due the risk of
not supporting IPv6 and this is too trivial of a technology
decision because the incremental cost is so small (compared to all
the other fires you have burning) to just add support anyway. I
get where you are coming from.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/31/19 4:19 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what
benefit is there to them in rolling out ipv6?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">What benefit is there to you?</div>
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:11 PM, C. A. Fillekes <<a
href="mailto:cfillekes@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">cfillekes@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on
the farm. One thing at a time. <br>
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<div>But, let's start thinking about ways to get Frontier up
to speed on the IPv6 thing. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at
4:24 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn <<a
href="mailto:aaron@heyaaron.com" moz-do-not-send="true">aaron@heyaaron.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">You're not alone.
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<div>I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago
and they said "We will probably start looking into
IPv6 next year".</div>
<div>I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah,
everyone seems to be offering it. I guess I'll have
to start reading how to implement it".</div>
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<div>I'm sure 2045 will finally be the year of IPv6
everywhere.</div>
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at 7:36 AM C. A. Fillekes <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">cfillekes@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>So by COB yesterday we now officially have FIOS
at our farm. <br>
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<div>Went from 3Mbps to around 30 measured average.
Yay. <br>
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<div>It's a business account, Frontier. But...still
no IPv6. <br>
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<div> The new router's capable of it. What's the
hold up? <br>
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<div>Customer service's response is "We don't offer
that".</div>
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