<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Seems a bit extreme...<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Peter Kristolaitis" <alter3d@alter3d.ca><br><b>To: </b>nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, March 8, 2019 10:32:18 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Should Netflix and Hulu give you emergency alerts?<br><br>It can be blocked, FYI. Just... not as easily as it should be. On <br>Android, if you remove the CellBroadcastReceiver service, the phone no <br>longer listens for the alerts.<br><br>I rooted my phone specifically to be able to do this after the alerting <br>system rolled out in Canada. The test was bad enough, then within the <br>first week we had several alerts for a single event that happened <br>literally an entire day's drive away from me.<br><br>And thus, in the first week the system was alive, alarm fatigue set in, <br>the government confirmed that it cannot be trusted, and I revoked their <br>privilege to use my personal devices for stuff I don't want.<br><br><br>On 2019-03-08 7:51 p.m., Clayton Zekelman wrote:<br>><br>> Absolutely, we need public emergency alerting. What we don't need is <br>> every alert to go out mandatory highest level sound the klaxon, can't <br>> be blocked, even when it's an "all clear" cancelling a previous alert, <br>> and is being sent in the middle of the night.<br>><br>> That's the system that has been foisted upon us here. I'm all for <br>> emergency alerting, but please make sure it's a real emergency.<br>><br>> At least in the US version, they target the region affected, and code <br>> it with the appropriate alert level instead of sending alerts to <br>> people 1400 km away.<br>><br>> https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/05/14/first-emergency-alert-sets-off-phones-ontario-wide-following-thunder-bay-amber-alert.html <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> At 07:43 PM 08/03/2019, Sean Donelan wrote:<br>>> Canada made a lot of improvements with its alert implementation. It <br>>> got to see all the things the U.S. did wrong. Unfortuantely, Canada <br>>> also copied some wrong lessons from the the U.S. version.<br>>><br>>> South Korea probably has the most ludicrous emergency alerts in the <br>>> world.<br>>><br>>> While improvements are needed, the various alert systems have saved <br>>> people's lives.<br>>><br>>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2019, Clayton Zekelman wrote:<br>>>> Just wait until your connected home speakers, smart smoke detector, <br>>>> smart<br>>>> refrigerator, smart tv, cell phone, IP streaming box, satellite <br>>>> receiver,<br>>>> cable box, home security panel and your Fitbit all go off warning <br>>>> you of the<br>>>> cancellation of an Amber alert at 1:30am, because the good folks at<br>>>> AlertReady.Ca and Pelmorex think that everything needs to go out at <br>>>> highest<br>>>> precedence, because, well, think of the children!<br>><br></div><br></div></body></html>