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    <p>There is that.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/9/19 3:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
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        buzzword comes to fruition is exploits.<br>
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style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From:
          </b>"Miles Fidelman" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net"><mfidelman@meetinghouse.net></a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net"><nanog@ics-il.net></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:26:13 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: Last Mile Design<br>
          <br>
          <p>I expect things are going to change as IoT takes off -
            security cameras, baby monitors, start to push video
            upstream - that makes a difference.</p>
          <p><br>
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          <p>And then there are the efforts of cell carriers to push
            traffic onto home wifi - more and more facetime video will
            also add load.</p>
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          <p>Miles<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/9/19 3:14 PM, Mike Hammett
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            <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
              font-size: 10pt; color: #000000">Electrical consumption of
              the equipment is different and then the environmental
              conditioning that larger electronic load.<br>
              <br>
              Let's not forget that actual consumer bit consumption
              changes very little whether they have 20 megs or 2 gigs
              provisioned and available.<br>
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                </b>"Miles Fidelman" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net"
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                <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:20:36 PM<br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: Last Mile Design<br>
                <br>
                Speaking of which, the Grant County Public Utility
                District (Washington <br>
                State), has wired active ethernet all over their rural
                county.<br>
                <br>
                Seems to me that the cost difference between splitters
                & switches is a <br>
                pretty minor component of deploying FTTH - the costs are
                in the <br>
                trenching, and the fiber.  What you put on the poles, or
                in the lawn <br>
                furniture, is a pretty minor cost component. Though...
                getting power to <br>
                the switches might be an issue, less so if you're
                deploying on power poles.<br>
                <br>
                Miles Fidelman<br>
                <br>
                On 2/9/19 12:59 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:<br>
                > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote:<br>
                ><br>
                >> If I had to build a consumer broadband network
                and had the budget <br>
                >> (and owned the fibre) to do so, I'd definitely
                always choose Active-E:<br>
                ><br>
                > For anyone saying it's "impossible" to do AE
                they're welcome here to <br>
                > the nordic region and especially Sweden where PON
                is basically unheard <br>
                > of. We have millions of AE connected households. I
                live in one of them.<br>
                ><br>
                -- <br>
                In theory, there is no difference between theory and
                practice.<br>
                In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra<br>
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