<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>You don't even need LOS to move more than 1.5 megabit/s over wireless.<br><br>I think the best bet is to consult people that actually know wireless.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; 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font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" style="border: 0pt none;"></a><span name="x"></span><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Dan Hollis" <goemon@sasami.anime.net><br><b>To: </b>"Nick Bogle" <nick@bogle.se><br><b>Cc: </b>nanog@nanog.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:00:23 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Extending network over a dry pair<br><br>On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:<br>> A quick question for you guys;<br>><br>> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)<br>> to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We<br>> currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't<br>> cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research site on a federally<br>> protected wildlife preserve so we can't run any new infrastructure (fiber<br>> etc) and it isn't in a geographical place where point to point wireless is<br>> practical. We were thinking there is some sort of network extender that<br>> uses some form of DSL for higher bandwidth capacity.<br>><br>> Any suggestions?<br><br>If this is telco provided dry pair then the distance is probably longer <br>than 6 miles as the endpoints are probably tied together through a telco <br>CO.<br><br>I have not heard of any equipment which will work over a 6 mile pair any <br>faster than you're getting with T1.<br><br>You might consider setting up wireless repeaters to bridge where there is <br>no direct LOS. Look at what the hamwan guys have done. http://hamwan.org/<br><br>-Dan<br></div><br></div></body></html>