<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">It's not exactly a measurement of "user to content" but CAIDA has swarms of Raspberry Pi nodes all over the world, that constantly measure... well, a lot of things, but they continually also monitor traceroute paths to each other. If you're looking for a "average length from any one node to any other node on the Internet" you'd likely find some good data points here.<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.caida.org/projects/ark/statistics/">https://www.caida.org/projects/ark/statistics/</a><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="padding-bottom:15px">Sincerely,</div>
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Keith Medcalf said:<br>
> "just static content" would be more accurate ...<br>
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and using http rather than https<br>
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> There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the 90's<br>
> -- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies".<br>
> Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually<br>
> provide the customer with what the customer had purchased. <br>
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One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which could <br>
turn into privacy invasion.<br>
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I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good <br>
reference. Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers <br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>did you mean the 'sandvine experiment' that happened ~10 yrs back?</div><div>or did you mean the plan verizon had to proxy all http/https traffic from consumer (fios/dsl) links through their gear so they could replace ad content and such?</div><div>or did you mean the various (barefruit/nominim/paxfire) dns fake-answer companies that dropped your customer on their "search platform" for monetization?</div><div><br></div><div>fairly much all of those are a wreck for consumer privacy :(</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting logged. <br>
Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations work, <br>
but nobody believed them. Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying.<br>
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I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy <br>
invasion didn't help.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>it's a rough business to be in, they say... but invading privacy of their users makes things seem a heck of a lot worse.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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