<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>No, not new. No need to buy new switches when there are so many used available (except for now needing 100G). Switches have an extremely long life. I have a client that has 15 year old Foundry switches that just work, though we're looking to replace them to get some 10G ports.<br><br>The pricing was part of my point. For years everyone says just skip 40G and go to 100G. The price difference isn't that much.... but it is.<br><br>"Everyone just skipped 40G and went for 100G." Then why is there such an availability of 40G switches? Obviously they weren't skipped, but purchased and then later replaced.<br><br>Looks like $280 for an LR4 40G and $800 for an LR4 100G. Still a premium for 100G over 40G.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br>Midwest-IX<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>chuckchurch@gmail.com, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:06:30 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Cheap switch with a couple 100G<br><br><div dir="ltr">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Are you saying that you can buy a new <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Cisco Nexus 3064 or Arista 7050sx for $1,000 new from these vendors, or are you talking about used stuff on eBay? If you are comparing to used stuff on ebay pricing good luck. I doubt you will find many used 100G switches as they are too new of a technology unlike 10G. Hell you can barely buy a couple of 10KM 100G optics from FS.com for less than $1000.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px"><br></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">No.<br><br>Cisco Nexus 3064, Arista 7050sx, etc.<br><br><div><span></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br><a href="http://www.ics-il.com" target="_blank">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br><br>Midwest-IX<br><a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com" target="_blank">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><span></span><br></div><br><hr id="m_7099457250802497498zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>"Chuck Church" <<a href="mailto:chuckchurch@gmail.com" target="_blank">chuckchurch@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>>, "North American Network Operators' Group" <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:07:33 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: Cheap switch with a couple 100G<br><br>Under 1K for 48 10G ports? Are you missing a decimal place?<br><br>Chuck<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog-bounces@nanog.org</a>> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett<br>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:39 AM<br>To: 'North American Network Operators' Group' <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>Subject: Cheap switch with a couple 100G<br><br>I keep hearing how cheap 100G is compared to 40G and it doesn't seem to hold true. Prove me wrong.<br><br>Cisco Nexus and Arista both have switches with 48x 10G ports and 2x - 6x 40G ports for under $1k. Swap those 40G for 100G and you're at $5k - $7k.<br><br>Am I missing some cheap switches with 100G?<br><br><br>I ask this because the transport companies seem to have given up on 40G.<br><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br><a href="http://www.ics-il.com" target="_blank">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br><br>Midwest-IX<br><a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com" target="_blank">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><br><br></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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