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Remember when AS 1 was Genuity?  First BGP session I ever set-up was with AS 1.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Ross Tajvar <ross@tajvar.io><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:44:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Meuse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> North American Network Operators' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks like Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering with a bunch of random ASes from many different countries.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse <span dir="ltr">
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<div>John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both worked for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned. John was one of the folks who built and ran that system. </div>
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<div>So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I think the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that when 4/8 was first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to various groups and they realized that
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:<br>
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<div>4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood <<a href="mailto:toddunder@gmail.com" target="_blank">toddunder@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse <<a href="mailto:smeuse@mara.org" target="_blank">smeuse@mara.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.4.4.0%2F24&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=omZw5JrEbg7yJeNd%2BhwNMVDz6mMAX4C0%2FuzJ5M2VObk%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://4.4.4.0/24" shash="QoiP5yYYdcPypMVWcewwMY9JUTM5IUDUtgcizv9dkZJYwtDHZD4yIYW1gEUgcljg/QumXas76Vr8xIKVAT8VyckojReOjj8o9huHfVYD1ywRaLUX5Mq2KACApRfj9g/gGP2trGZUPmQfhrKRtC0qhsrwtF69ViKlZpFBOaP09mg=" target="_blank">
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer <<a href="mailto:jco@direwolf.com" target="_blank">jco@direwolf.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would have used 4.4.4.[123]. </div>
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On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani <<a href="mailto:merculiani@gmail.com" target="_blank">merculiani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS is incoming.
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke <<a href="mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">eric.kuhnke@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<td>Apparently bought in two chunks: <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F3.0.0.0%2F9&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=Ge2tXIZCF3fJB9fpwBjG58CUFf%2FPYtAKeosqIIF3JKQ%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://3.0.0.0/9" shash="GG8Dlm2TIL0pvumrS3JVlSrOt9EReycvO/c2zuwmLgQFrvWui6KG7medmhazCEA/V/sd1kwFQbH750KpmoDGRSN+hbWWOQvl6fKre9PEadFz10NTBo8fj0Zry+bIgKvqUO40X79YiFxFF1W+MCvujv2woVQ6R+p1+2Nz+bVpWRQ=" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<p>Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned in that range.</p>
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