<div dir="ltr">The box with NAT would be the only thing that hangs onto sessions - everything expires at 24 hours, so that would be gone through the weekend (and some work weeks).<div><br></div><div>I would think it's failing to dial when I lose VZW or doesn't think it needs to and a reboot of the phone forces it to.  The phone may have an IPsec tunnel lingering, I suppose.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Josh Luthman<br>Office: 937-552-2340<br>Direct: 937-552-2343<br>1100 Wayne St<br>Suite 1337<br>Troy, OH 45373</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Brielle Bruns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruns@2mbit.com" target="_blank">bruns@2mbit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">IIRC, the Wifi calling stuff works over IPSec from the devices back to a concentrator device.<br>
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Are you able to look on your network firewall/router/nat device and see if you have lingering IPSec sessions hung open, or if there's a network ALG that might be playing a part?<br>
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I used to have issues like this with T-Mobile and UMA.<span class=""><br>
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On 10/18/2018 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:<br>
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If someone from Verizon Wireless specifically for WiFi calling could reach out to me to fix our devices I would appreciate it.  The WiFi calling works just fine when we reboot in the office, but it will never reconnect (ie we leave the office, get 4G, come back).  I've opened 3-4 tickets with no resolution.<br>
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Josh Luthman<br>
Office: 937-552-2340<br>
Direct: 937-552-2343<br>
1100 Wayne St<br>
Suite 1337<br>
Troy, OH 45373<br>
<br></span><span class="">
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Sean Heskett <<a href="mailto:afmug@zirkel.us" target="_blank">afmug@zirkel.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:afmug@zirkel.us" target="_blank">afmug@zirkel.us</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
    Hello,<br>
<br>
    Is anyone from verizon wireless on here.  clients across our network<br>
    started complaining 2 weeks ago that wifi calling stopped working.<br>
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    <<a href="http://wo.vzwwo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wo.vzwwo.com</a>> which fail.  the first set is with our normal<span class=""><br>
    DNS servers and the second set is using 8.8.8.8<br>
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    Thanks,<br>
<br></span>
    *Sean Heskett*<br>
    *<br>
    *<br>
    *ZIRKEL Wireless *<br>
    */High-Speed Internet/ for NW Colorado*<span class=""><br>
    970-871-8500 x100 - Office<br>
    970-846-8065 - mobile<br>
    866-903-4628 - Fax<br></span>
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    PING <a href="http://wo.vzwwo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wo.vzwwo.com</a> <<a href="http://wo.vzwwo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wo.vzwwo.com</a>> (141.207.177.233): 56 data bytes<span class=""><br>
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      2 <a href="http://rtr-edge-rht.zirkelwireless.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rtr-edge-rht.zirkelwireless.co<wbr>m</a><br></span>
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      3 <a href="http://65-117-210-178.zirkelwireless.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">65-117-210-178.zirkelwireless.<wbr>com</a><br>
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      4 <a href="http://72-55-193-5.mammothnetworks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">72-55-193-5.mammothnetworks.co<wbr>m</a><br></span>
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      5 <a href="http://be5274.rcr21.b006467-6.den01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be5274.rcr21.b006467-6.den01.a<wbr>tlas.cogentco.com</a><br>
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    (38.140.187.145)  5.996 ms  5.880 ms  5.756 ms<br>
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      6 <a href="http://be3414.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3414.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br></span>
    <<a href="http://be3414.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3414.ccr21.den01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (66.28.4.205)  6.072 ms<br>
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      7 <a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
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    <<a href="http://be3036.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3036.ccr22.mci01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.31.90)  17.646 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.5.90)  17.038 ms<br>
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      8 <a href="http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.3.213)     27.259 ms  27.265 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.3.133)  27.198 ms<br>
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      9 <a href="http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.47.214)     28.024 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.28.74)     27.870 ms  27.955 ms<br>
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    10 <a href="http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.c<wbr>om</a><br>
    <<a href="http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.co<wbr>gentco.com</a>> (154.54.12.206)  27.478<span class=""><br>
    ms  48.841 ms  40.085 ms<br>
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    11 <a href="http://0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.alter.ne<wbr>t</a><br></span>
    <<a href="http://0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.<wbr>alter.net</a>> (140.222.236.209)  40.159 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://0.et-11-3-0.gw8.chi13.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">0.et-11-3-0.gw8.chi13.alter.ne<wbr>t</a><br>
    <<a href="http://0.et-11-3-0.gw8.chi13.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0.et-11-3-0.gw8.chi13.<wbr>alter.net</a>> (140.222.231.217)  39.879 ms<br>
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    <<a href="http://0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0.et-10-1-0.gw8.chi13.<wbr>alter.net</a>> (140.222.236.209)  40.217 ms<span class=""><br>
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    4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss<br>
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      2 <a href="http://rtr-edge-rht.zirkelwireless.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rtr-edge-rht.zirkelwireless.co<wbr>m</a><br></span>
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      6 <a href="http://be3414.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3414.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br></span>
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      7 <a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.5.90)  17.233 ms<br>
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    <<a href="http://be3036.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3036.ccr22.mci01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.31.90)  17.397 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be3035.ccr21.mci01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.5.90)  17.859 ms<br>
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      8 <a href="http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2433.ccr32.dfw01.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.3.213)     27.428 ms  27.476 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2432.ccr31.dfw01.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
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      9 <a href="http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2764.ccr41.dfw03.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.47.214)     28.129 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogen<wbr>tco.com</a><br>
    <<a href="http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://be2763.ccr41.dfw03.atl<wbr>as.cogentco.com</a>> (154.54.28.74)     28.009 ms  27.497 ms<br>
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    10 <a href="http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.c<wbr>om</a><br>
    <<a href="http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://verizon.dfw03.atlas.co<wbr>gentco.com</a>> (154.54.12.206)  27.402<span class=""><br>
    ms  27.451 ms  27.445 ms<br>
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    11 <a href="http://0.et-11-3-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">0.et-11-3-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.ne<wbr>t</a><br></span>
    <<a href="http://0.et-11-3-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0.et-11-3-0.gw10.dfw7.<wbr>alter.net</a>> (140.222.228.115)  29.849<br>
    ms  29.039 ms<br>
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    <a href="http://0.et-10-1-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">0.et-10-1-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.ne<wbr>t</a><br>
    <<a href="http://0.et-10-1-0.gw10.dfw7.alter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0.et-10-1-0.gw10.dfw7.<wbr>alter.net</a>> (140.222.0.113)  29.132 ms<br>
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Brielle Bruns<br>
The Summit Open Source Development Group<br>
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