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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I guess those bots have to sit somewhere. I don’t know that they would be in routers as much as they would be in Microsoft Windows… so if that’s what you meant, then I see what you mean Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Niels, I like my cogent and telia internet connections… I just recall seeing more ddos on cogent then I did on my previous att, and current spectrum… telia is showing a good bit of ddos also <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Let’s put it this way, I can thank Cogent and Telia for helping my get better in my ddos mitigation skills </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#44546A'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'> … there’s a bright side to everything huh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Crapse<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> NANOG list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Whats going on at Cogent<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or he's saying that cogent has the biggest network of compromised users. Usually ipv4 only eyeball networks tend to have the most bots on net.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 19:22, Niels Bakker <niels=<a href="mailto:nanog@bakker.net">nanog@bakker.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>* <a href="mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com" target="_blank">aaron1@gvtc.com</a> (Aaron1) [Wed 17 Oct 2018, 00:17 CEST]:<br>>However Cogent seems to be the dirtiest in regards to DDOS...<br>>however Telia might be catching up... in times past when I receive <br>>volumetric DDOS, Cogent typically ranks with the highest on my <br>>providers ... AT&T and spectrum seem to be a bit cleaner<br><br>So you're saying, Cogent and Telia have the best backbones and <br>interconnects and thus deliver the most of your traffic to you, <br>even at times of peak utilization?<br><br><br> -- Niels.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>