<div dir="auto">What is the average latency from the mainland to PR? If it's under 10ms, there's probably not a huge push for a local IX.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But to compare to our IX in Minnesota, we are within 8ms of Chicago and we certainly didn't need one here but a group of guys got together some donations and donated rack space, power, etc. And now we have a very busy IX with most of the big players on it. I think we push almost 211 gbps at peak.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So our model was a "build it and they will come" and it worked great. It's very popular and many content providers and ISP's are peered here including us.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Our exchange has since started charging port fees but it was free to join for the longest time.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://micemn.net">http://micemn.net</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 8:57 AM Mel Beckman <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mel@beckman.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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But why would you want, as a content provider, to have your content hosted on the island? Backhauling it over fiber is no big deal across the short distances involved. As far as I can tell, PR has a glut of ocean floor fiber capacity, just installed a couple
 years ago. We're not talking stock market trades here, where milliseconds matter. We're talking Netflix movie reruns, which could be easily delivered with seconds of latency. </div>
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<div id="m_-4209870510371752782m_-4446385831445862273AppleMailSignature">Those who hold to the "if you build it they will come" business model forget that that model was a fantasy in a movie. </div>
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<div id="m_-4209870510371752782m_-4446385831445862273AppleMailSignature">A movie currently being streamed to PR without difficulty :-)</div>
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On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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Agreed. Very chicken or the egg. Any recently formed IX is largely a conduit for big content to connect to local eyeballs. As some critical mass of eyeballs is achieved, local content is interested as are large networks like Hurricane Electric.<br>
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In the case of PR, if there are no local content providers, an IX provides an avenue for one to form to connect to other operators on the island, avoiding underwater cables to the mainland. If I were a company in PR, I'd want my web site and other services
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<b>From: </b>"Sander Steffann" <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sander@steffann.nl</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Mel Beckman" <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"nanog" <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 14, 2018 8:08:58 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Puerto Rico Internet Exchange<br>
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Hi,<br>
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> In general an IX only makes sense when there are local resources to exchange. It doesn’t seem like PR has a lot of, if any, content providers of its own, so most consumer content is coming from offshore anyway.<br>
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This can also work the other way: once there is a local IXP, it can open opportunities for local content providers.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Sander<br>
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