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<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><hr><b>From:</b> Rod Beck [mailto:Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com]<br><b>To:</b> Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com], Hank Nussbacher [mailto:hank@efes.iucc.ac.il]<br><b>Cc:</b> nanog [mailto:nanog@merit.edu]<br><b>Sent:</b> Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:14:20 -0800<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: TransAtlantic Cable Break<br><br>
<p><font size="2">Protected 10 gig waves NYC/London are extremely expensive. Say $60K or more per month.<br>
</font></p></blockquote>Not bad as DS3's between Alaska & Seattle used to cost that much.<br><br>-Dee<br><br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><p><font size="2"><span></span><br>
So it usually makes sense for the Layer 3 guys to lease diversely routed 10 gig waves and do the protection themselves using MPLS or load balancing or some other protocol about which I know little ...<br>
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Roderick S. Beck<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">owner-nanog@merit.edu</a> on behalf of Sean Donelan<br>
Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 4:56 PM<br>
To: Hank Nussbacher<br>
Cc: nanog<br>
Subject: Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break<br>
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Hank Nussbacher wrote:<br>
>> Tell that to the 10 gig wave customers who lost service. Very few cable<br>
>> systems provide protection at the 10 gig wave level.<br>
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> If you don't pay the extra amount for a protected circuit, why should your<br>
> circuit get protection for free when others have to pay for it? Now, if<br>
> there are 10G customers with protected circuits who lost service, then<br>
> hopefully they have in their contract hefty penalty clauses against the<br>
> carrier. If not, then they are just plain stupid.<br>
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Is paying for "protected circuits" actually worth it. Or are you better<br>
off just buying two circuits and using both during normal conditions.<br>
Use switching at layer 3 to the remaining circuit during abnormal<br>
conditions. Most of the time, you get twice the capacity for only twice<br>
the price instead of a "protected circuit" where you only get the once<br>
the capacity for twice the price.<br>
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Of course, there is still the problem some facility provider will "groom"<br>
both your circuits on to the same cable. If you are buying pre-emptable<br>
circuits, hopefully you understand what that means.<br>
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