UK UMTS operator 3 (a Hutchison division) is advertising its so-called X-Series service, which provides "unlimited" data service (plus various lumps of steam telephony) for £25 rising to £40 a month. Skype is being bundled with the devices involved, and here's the kicker - 3 is offering Slingboxen thrown in for £99 extra.
<br><br>3 has just begun HSDPA Class 5 upgrades in metro areas (claimed maximum 3.6 Mbits/s) and plans to launch HSUPA in the uplink next spring, with a claimed max of 1.4Mbits/s.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/25/06,
<b class="gmail_sendername">Thomas Leavitt</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Check the AUP and TOS for that EVDO connection - my guess is that by<br>viewing stuff from your Slingbox, you're risking termination of service.<br>I don't have an EVDO connection myself (still toodling along with my
<br>Sidekick's GPRS), and part of the reason why is that they have a lot of<br>what I think are unreasonable restrictions on how these services can be<br>used -- this is based on what I've read on the various mailing lists I'm
<br>on (Dave Farber's IP, Declan McCullagh's Politech, and Dewayne<br>Hendrick's Dewayne-Net).<br><br>I don't know how significant restrictions like this are from a<br>competitive perspective, but my broadband ISP also has a very liberal
<br>TOS... and that's one of the reasons I use them. I suspect that as items<br>like the Slingbox become more common, folks will start paying more<br>attention to what they're permitted to do with their upstream bandwidth.
<br><br>Thomas<br><br>Roland Dobbins wrote:<br>><br>><br>> I recently purchased a Slingbox Pro, and have set it up so that I can<br>> remotely access/control my home HDTV DVR and stream video remotely.<br>> My broadband access SP specifically allow home users to run servers,
<br>> as long as said servers don't cause a problem for the SP<br>> infrastructure nor for other users or doing anything illegal; as long<br>> as I'm not breaking the law or making problems for others, they don't
<br>> care.<br>><br>> The Slingbox is pretty cool; when I access it, both the video and<br>> audio quality are more than acceptable. It even works well when I<br>> access it via EVDO; on average, I'm pulling down about 450kb/sec up to
<br>> about 580kb/sec over TCP (my home upstream link is a theoretical<br>> 768kb/sec, minus overhead; I generally get something pretty close to<br>> that).<br>><br>> What I'm wondering is, do broadband SPs believe that this kind of
<br>> system will become common enough to make a signficant difference in<br>> traffic paterns, and if so, how do they believe it will affect their<br>> access infrastructures in terms of capacity, given the typical
<br>> asymmetries seen in upstream vs. downstream capacity in many broadband<br>> access networks? If a user isn't doing something like breaking the<br>> law by illegally redistributing copyrighted content, is this sort of
<br>> activity permitted by your AUPs? If so, would you change your AUPs if<br>> you saw a significant shift towards non-infringing upstream content<br>> streaming by your broadband access customers? If not, would you
<br>> consider changing your AUPs in order to allow this sort of upstream<br>> content streaming of non-infringing content, with the caveat that<br>> users can't caused problems for your infrastructure or for other
<br>> users, and perhaps with a bandwidth cap?<br>><br>> Would you police down this traffic if you could readily classify it,<br>> as many SPs do with P2P applications? Would the fact that this type<br>> of traffic doesn't appear to be illegal or infringing in any way lead
<br>> you to treat it differently than P2P traffic (even though there are<br>> many legitimate uses for P2P file-sharing systems, the presumption<br>> always seems to be that the majority of P2P traffic is in<br>
> illegally-redistributed copyrighted content, and thus P2P technologies<br>> seem to've acquired a taint of distaste from many quarters, rightly or<br>> wrongly).<br>><br>> Also, have you considered running a service like this yourselves, a la
<br>> VoIP/IPTV?<br>><br>> Vidoeconferencing is somewhat analogous, but in most cases,<br>> videoconference calls (things like iChat, Skype videoconferencing,<br>> etc.) generally seem to use a less bandwidth than the Slingox, and it
<br>> seems to me that they will in most cases be of shorter duration than,<br>> say, a business traveler who wants to keep up with Lost or 24 and so<br>> sits down to stream video from his home A/V system for 45 minutes to
<br>> an hour at a stretch.<br>><br>> Sorry to ramble, this neat little toy just sparked a few questions,<br>> and I figured that some of you are dealing with these kinds of issues<br>> already, or are anticipating doing so in the not-so-distant future.
<br>> Any insight or informed speculation greatly appreciated!<br>><br>><br>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Roland Dobbins <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">
email@example.com</a>> // 408.527.6376 voice<br>><br>> All battles are perpetual.<br>><br>> -- Milton Friedman<br>><br>><br>><br><br><br>--<br>Thomas Leavitt - <a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">
email@example.com</a> - 831-295-3917 (cell)<br><br>*** Independent Systems and Network Consultant, Santa Cruz, CA ***<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>