We all have our opinions, Randy. Hammers and nails being what they are... - ferg -- Randy Bush wrote: > what's curious, to me atleat, is that folks equate 'botnet' and 'spoofed > source attacks' more often than I'd think is reasonable. I've not got > 'hard numbers' but almost every time the attack is determined to be > 'botnet' it's not spoofed. > > Odd... (not that I'm against bcp38, I just think the distraction in > conversation from 'bcp38 is good' to 'we must stop bots' is not helpful) bingo! when you have religion about a hammer, everything looks like a nail. randy -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/