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At 09:59 PM 7/24/2006, Frank Bulk wrote:<br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size=2 color="#0000FF">Depending on the state you
live in, the PUC generally requires 4 to 8 hours of dialtone if it's
generated from the C.O. Dialtone generated from SLC may not be
explicitly covered under the rules.</font></blockquote><br>
So when they moved about 1/2 of the town from CO to SLC, they got out of
the obligation to provide dial tone in power outage? That seems, ummm,
interesting. Will be interesting to see what the police chief learns (I'm
on a town board that works closely with the police, so he and I get to
talk often and get along well). He was quite concerned to learn about the
telephone outages that happen.<br><br>
Thanks for the info. I will follow up with the PUC folks as well and see
what they have to say. The Verizon service folks did tell me they
expected dialtone to work during power failures, and kept claiming it
must be my telephones that are at fault (plugging a very basic,
known-functional POTS phone into the network interface says they're
wrong).<br><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size=2 color="#0000FF">Regards,<br>
</font> <br>
<font face="Tahoma" size=2 color="#0000FF">Frank<br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size=2><b>From:</b> owner-nanog@merit.edu
[<a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Senie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 24, 2006 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brandon Galbraith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog@merit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Hot weather and power outages continue<br>
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At 06:26 PM 7/24/2006, Brandon Galbraith wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">While hardwired
(fiber/coax/copper) aggregation points usually don't have backup power on
them, most cellular towers have either batteries or generators for backup
power, correct?</blockquote><br>
We see good cable modem connectivity during power outages. Batteries must
still be good in the HFC nodes in our area. Verizon POTS service, on the
other hand, dies when the power does. The batteries in their SLC units
are toast. I've got the local police chief off conversing with the
Verizon E911 folks to find out why it's OK to have no 911 service to a
large part of town when there's no power (Verizon repair kept trying to
tell me it must be my equipment, despite testing at the network
interface).<br><br>
I am looking at moving telephone services off to Comcast or VOIP because
they're more reliable than Verizon is, in my particular
neighborhood.<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">-brandon<br><br>
On 7/24/06, <b>William S. Duncanson</b>
<<a href="mailto:caesar@starkreality.com">caesar@starkreality.com</a>
> wrote:
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<dd>Indeed, my RoadRunner connection is the same way. All of my
stuff stays up,
<dd>but "teh Interweb is broken." I'm guessing that they
(DSL/CableCo's) find it
<dd>too cost-prohibitive to roll out UPSes to the customer aggregation
points.
<dd>Suprisingly, my cable TV goes out as well when the power goes, so it
might
<dd>just be more than the CMTS that's going out.<br>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">owner-nanog@merit.edu
</a>[
<a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu</a>] On Behalf Of
<dd>Michael Loftis
<dd>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 16:20
<dd>To: <a href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</a>
<dd>Subject: Re: Hot weather and power outages continue <br>
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<br>
<dd>--On July 24, 2006 2:22:26 AM -0400 Sean Donelan
<<a href="mailto:sean@donelan.com">sean@donelan.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<dd>> While its expected for individual customers to go down during
power
<dd>> outages, usually because the customer does not have local
backup
<dd>> power, it is less common for major web sites and co-location
centers
<dd>> to experience downtime during power outages.<br>
<dd>Except if you're in Qwest territory. Apparently they don't put
any battery
<dd>backup at their mini-DSLAMs and such. Every time we lose power,
I'm still
<dd>up, but the DSL signal goes away. Haven't checked dialtone, but
I keep
<dd>meaning too during the next outage.<br>
<dd>Now I know it's not exactly fair singling out Qwest, because I'll bet
<dd>Verizon and others share the same thing, and I'm pretty sure it's
just their
<dd>ADSL service and not the voice service (I haven't checked
though) it's
<dd>still becoming more and more common that as an individual user your
<dd>connection to the internet, unless you're paying for something other
than
<dd>ADSL or Cable, will be just as affected by local power
outages.<br><br>
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-- <br>
Brandon Galbraith<br>
Email:
<a href="mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com">
brandon.galbraith@gmail.com</a><br>
AIM: brandong00<br>
Voice: 630.400.6992<br>
"A true pirate starts drinking before the sun hits the yard-arm.
Yarrrr. --thelost" </blockquote></blockquote></body>
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