
Two observations concerning the quick circuit question.

First, yes, T3s are definitely full duplex in nature. The only time anything 
common is used is when the same strand of fiber is used in a WDM mode, with one 
lambda supporting the east-west direction, while another lambda supports the west-
east direction. But even here, there is no interaction taking place between the 
two paths.

Secondly, if the line is suspected as being the cause of a problem, tests should 
be performed in the absence of end user data, simply to eliminate the line or tag 
it as the problem. Testing should take place using bit-error test sets that employ 
quasi-random and other forms of continuous data streams, instead. In this manner 
no questions can arise as to ack-nacks or circumstances surrounding download-
upload conflicts and windowing  considerations.

Finally, "dsx" does not stand for full duplex, as someone mentioned. "FDX" stands 
for full duplex. DSX-n is an abbreviation that stands for Digital Cross-Connect at 
the n level, which should not to be confused with the electronic time-slot-
interchange kinds of disgital cross-connects, known also as DACSes, but rather the 
physical patch panel type of cross-connects we're all familiar with. 

A DSX-1 is a twisted pair demarcation point for a DS-1 or T1 line. A DSX-3 is a 
digital cross-connect for a DS-3 or T3. Etc.

Frank

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:21 , 'Williams, Jeff' <jwilliams3@tiaa-cref.org> sent:

>
>You might find what you're looking for at
>acterna.com/global/technical_resources/index_gbl.html
>
>They're the result of the TTC/ WWG merger.
>
>Jeff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [owner-nanog@merit.edu','','','')">owner-
nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
>Scott Weeks
>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:13 PM
>To: nanog@merit.edu
>Subject: Re: Quick circuit question.
>
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>
>
>
>On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Drew Weaver wrote:
>
>:             We have 1 DS-3, that if we get close to 45Mbps IN/OUT the
>other
>: direction will be completely unusable. We have another DS3, that we have
>: seen doing 45Mbps IN, and 15Mbps Out at the same time. This is going to
>: sound dumb, but is duplex a consideration with lines of these types? I
>: thought you could do either 45Mbps in, 45Mbps out, or a mix of both, not
>: 45Mbps In, and 45Mbps out at the same time (90mbps)..
>:
>: I couldn't find this exact info on the net anywhere.
>
>
>
>Anyone happen to know of where TTC's online library went a few years ago
>after they merged with someone? (I've forgotten whom)  There was a great
>deal on T1s, T3s, etc.  I have hard copies at home, but it'd sure be nice to
>get some online copies, if they still exist.
>
>scott
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