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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My suggestion is to enable the full DS3
and have each router traffic-shape to 6M on the neighboring interfaces. 
Rate-limit on the input of your router to disallow the customer from sending
you more than the limit.  Remember that for the most part rate-limiting
polices, where traffic shaping performs more buffering and shaping.  That’s
why you should use the combo of a shape on the sender side and a police on your
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Claydon, Tom
[mailto:Tom.Claydon@DobsonTelco.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 19, 2003
10:26 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'nanog@merit.edu'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Bandwidth Control
Question</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A customer of ours in the next building would like 6M
of Internet bandwidth from us, so we would wire a DS3 between the two buildings
for connectivity.</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The question is: how to we control the amount of
bandwidth that we give them? Could we use rate limiting to contain the
bandwdith to 6M, our would we need to get external IDSU's to do that?</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Note: we have a Cisco 7206VXR router on our end. The
customer has a Cisco 7513.</span></font> </p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>= TC</span></font>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tom
Claydon, IT/ATM Network Engineer</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dobson
Telephone Company</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>phone:
(405) 391-8201  cell: (405) 834-0341</span></font> </p>

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