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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why not simply use configuration option Cisco gives
you to set your DS3 to 6 meg</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dsu bandwidth X</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan, your suggestion will unncessarily tax his
equipment.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bryan</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ellis@corp.ptd.net href="mailto:ellis@corp.ptd.net">Dan Ellis</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Tom.Claydon@DobsonTelco.net
href="mailto:Tom.Claydon@DobsonTelco.net">Claydon, Tom</A> ; <A
title=nanog@merit.edu href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 9:32
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Bandwidth Control
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My suggestion is to
enable the full DS3 and have each router traffic-shape to 6M on the
neighboring interfaces. Rate-limit on the input of your router to
disallow the customer from sending you more than the limit. Remember
that for the most part rate-limiting polices, where traffic shaping performs
more buffering and shaping. That�s why you should use the combo of a
shape on the sender side and a police on your side to
protect.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Claydon,
Tom [mailto:Tom.Claydon@DobsonTelco.net] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 19, 2003 10:26
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
'nanog@merit.edu'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Bandwidth Control Question</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A customer of ours in the next
building would like 6M of Internet bandwidth from us, so we would wire a DS3
between the two buildings for connectivity.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The question is: how to we control
the amount of bandwidth that we give them? Could we use rate limiting to
contain the bandwdith to 6M, our would we need to get external IDSU's to do
that?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Note: we have a Cisco 7206VXR
router on our end. The customer has a Cisco 7513.</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
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TC</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
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<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom Claydon, IT/ATM Network
Engineer</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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Company</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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