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<DIV>Microsoft already does this, it is their TechNet program. They include all service packs and updates. Unfortunately, they charge a whopping pile for the service, beyond the reach of most home/dial users.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jerry</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:steve@telecomplete.co.uk">Stephen J. Wilcox</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Monday, September 22, 2003 07:27:10</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:roy@royb.org">Roy Bentley</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Cc:</B></I> <A href="mailto:valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu">valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu</A>; <A href="mailto:sean@donelan.com">Sean Donelan</A>; <A href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: Windows updates and dial up users</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Roy Bentley wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> Stephen J. Wilcox said:</DIV>
<DIV>> > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 <A href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</A> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:50 EDT, Sean Donelan <<A href="mailto:sean@donelan.com">sean@donelan.com</A>> said:</DIV>
<DIV>> >></DIV>
<DIV>> >> > "I recently put this suggestion to Microsoft and their response basically</DIV>
<DIV>> >> > avoided the whole issue. Why wouldn't the company want to offer such a</DIV>
<DIV>> >> > CD, assuming that's the motivation behind their stonewalling?"</DIV>
<DIV>> >></DIV>
<DIV>> >> It would cost money to produce and ship a new CD on a frequent enough basis</DIV>
<DIV>> >> for it to do any good. Consider that we're seeing worms within 4 weeks of</DIV>
<DIV>> >> the patch coming out. How many CD duplicating places are willing to take</DIV>
<DIV>> >> on a multi-million run with a 1-2 week turn-around, once a month, every</DIV>
<DIV>> >> month?</DIV>
<DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > Ok then different idea, assuming that we're all agreed its MS's</DIV>
<DIV>> > responsibility to ensure users are patched promptly and without extra cost</DIV>
<DIV>> > to the end user.</DIV>
<DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > Its not a problem patching on a dialup, it just takes longer, this may put</DIV>
<DIV>> > people off when they see their computer tell them its going to take 3 hours</DIV>
<DIV>> > to download and theyre paying per minute on the call</DIV>
<DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > What if MS included something in the Windows Update that gave the user the</DIV>
<DIV>> > option of calling a toll-free number operated by MS for the purpose of</DIV>
<DIV>> > downloading.. ?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Realise that this would require MS to take responsibility for putting out</DIV>
<DIV>> bad code. That's quite unlikely, IMO.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hmm no, they dont have to take that approach, they currently provide updates as</DIV>
<DIV>part of their license agreement to users, this would just be an enhancement of</DIV>
<DIV>their existing facility offering a new level of security whereby users can gain</DIV>
<DIV>access to critical updates without putting their machines at risk by connecting</DIV>
<DIV>to the global Internet...</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve</DIV>
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