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<DIV><FONT size=2>I would also like to state on Emil's behalf that from what I
know as one of his providers that seems to be a true story. I assigned and
swipped him ip space which he has used and I have never gotten one spam
complaint from the space we assigned him.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I have had a couple port scanning complaints however Emil
himself has told me to null these blocks and notify him shutting them down first
and dealing with the issue in a more controled way. Emil has on many
occasions restarted machines or helped with server work in the colos we occupy
together and I'm glad to have him as a customer. If again someone out
there has documented proof that these blocks are stolen please present them to
me on or off list I'll be glad to react appropriately. I'll also
publically offer here to assist Emil in obtaining a direct allocation which
would be entirely new if he wishes that may put this matter to bed as
well. I definitely appreciate input from everyone however this is the
first time I'd ever been presented with a case like this. So I'm learning
and if anyone disagrees with me please tell me. I'm always up for
discussion and know there are many on this list far more qualified and
experienced than my self. I'm quite certain that this has gone way way off
topic however so I'll stop here and hopefully we can get back to more
operational discussions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=emil@atrivo.com href="mailto:emil@atrivo.com">emil@atrivo.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nanog@merit.edu
href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re[2]: The in-your-face
hijacking example, was: Re: Who is announcing bogons?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Everyone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Let's see if we can clarify this once and for all. ISD
owner was a good friend of mine and helped me when I ran a computer
store. Without him I couldn't run the store and over the years I have
repaid him for his contributions. A few years ago I closed the computer
store and started Atrivo. At first we acquired /24's direct from the
providers themselves and was statically routing everything. We did this
for a few years until recently when we upgrade our routers and decided to
BGP. We have grown to the point that we have to prepare for the
future. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>After discussing our expansion plans to Rob, I came to find
out that he did posses a /16 which his now defunct company wasn't using
anymore. From that point I found out what it would take from Arin to
have us use the space. We followed all the steps that Arin had told us
to do. We of course wanted to update contact information to reflect the
new change and so we can respond to any issues that may arrive running a
ISP.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>All our providers and vendors know us as a respectable
company. There is nothing wrong that we have done and all this witch
hunting is unjust and unfair. Might I mention that Spews, SpamHaus or
anyone that has made these claims has not even attempted to give me a
call. I have even tried to make arrangements to meet up at the colo and
to show anyone that we are for real. Of course this has been always
declined.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Well I don't know how much this will help, since it's seems
that no matter what I offer or do is just not enough. Maybe I have to
give my DNA just to prove who I am?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Atrivo - Web Innovation<BR>Emil
Kacperski<BR>Phone: 925-550-3947<BR>E-mail: <A
href="mailto:emil@atrivo.com">emil@atrivo.com</A><BR>ICQ:
23531098</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>