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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>A
knowledgeable investor would ask your HR department a few
questions:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>1.
Which half of the resume do you believe?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=952122121-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>2. Is
it really more economical to ignore half your talent than spend a little
checking resumes?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=952122121-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>3.
What does it say about your company's ethics that you accept that all your
employees are liars?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>but
then you have to find that knowledgeable investor first...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>Just
my 2� and in similar circumstances,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=952122121-26032002>-Al</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=952122121-26032002>USAF
Ret.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> James Smith
[mailto:jsmith@PRESIDIO.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:03
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'smd@clock.org'; 'lists-nanog@silverwraith.com';
'sean@donelan.com'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Jml@ebay.com';
'nanog@merit.edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: How to get better security
people<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
smd@clock.org [<A href="mailto:smd@clock.org">mailto:smd@clock.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:41 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: lists-nanog@silverwraith.com; sean@donelan.com</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Cc: Jml@ebay.com; nanog@merit.edu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE:
How to get better security people</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>| The problem right now is if you advertise for a job, you
will get</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| blasted with literally tens of thousands of
resumes. What should I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>| be telling the HR
department to look for?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>New careers.</FONT> </P>
<P> <FONT size=2>Sean.</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>=============</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>That's the problem. Too many folks seeing the big money going
to the tech weenies, and upon taking an MCSE boot camp, think they now qualify
for a senior Admin/Security job. That and resume inflation, real or percieved.
Too much noise in the system and inefective noise reduction
methods...</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> My resume is factual, and when I got out of the
military, I was penalized by my first civilian employer. When I stated I could
in fact set up a needed DNS, I was told they would hire it out. I asked why
hire it out when I could do it. I was told, "we only believe half of any
resume we get, and we don't think that you have the necessary experience." If
setting up and running <deleted>.af.mil (now gone), and doing the very
first <deleted>.af.mil DNS located on the base (complete with off-site
secondaries), and running it until transitioned about a year later to the comm
squadron folks I trained didn't count, then what did?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Not bitter, though. Got a new employer...</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>James H. Smith II NNCDS NNCSE</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Systems
Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The Presidio Corporation</FONT>
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