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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Adrian: The key word is "cooperating". New.net (and its brethren that are being born in technology incubators as we speak) are not "cooperating", they're intentionally "culture-jamming" for their own gain.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>-Mat Butler</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Speaking for himself, not his company</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Adrian Chadd [<A HREF="mailto:adrian@creative.net.au">mailto:adrian@creative.net.au</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:18 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Stephen J. Wilcox</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: Statements against new.net?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> You dont have to use ARIN/RIPE allocated IPs on your network, you can pick</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> your own (non-RFC1918) addresses just dont advertise them, but again what</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> good is that to users on my network who wont be able to see the sites.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Look: "Internet" its single, not plural that would be "Internets" there</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> are certain uniquenesses which must be maintained if you want all users on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> "The Internet" to receive the same results no matter who's network they</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> are on.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hrm. Somewhere along the line I remember the Internet being defined</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>as a bunch of networks cooperating in order to exchange information.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>When did that change? :-)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I'll be happy when more companies start to see that they canactually</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>make money by fostering internet growth rather than making money by</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>abusing internet growth.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Adrian</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Adrian Chadd "The fact you can download a 100 megabyte file</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><adrian@creative.net.au> from half way around the world should be viewed</FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=2> as an accident and not a right."</FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=2>-- Adrian Chadd and Bill Fumerola</FONT>
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