N91 Women mixer on Sunday?

Fri Mar 29 16:31:49 UTC 2024

I don't think anything is 'easily fixed' on this topic.

I do however hope that everyone accepts at face value that the board,
staff, and PC are *trying* to do the right things here. Doesn't mean that
it *will* always be the right thing, or even that a majority of people can
agree on what the right thing actually is.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 1:05 AM Eric Parsonage <eric at eparsonage.com> wrote:

> It's easily fixed by having a mixer at the same time for the other half of
> the gathering population thus showing all the population gathering matters
> equally.
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> On 29 March 2024 2:50:19 pm ACDT, Ren Provo <ren.provo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I beg to differ here and second Ilissa’s comments.  I miss WiT.  Lunch
>> during the meeting worked.  Giving up more of the weekend to travel does
>> not show half the population gathering matters.
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>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 15:16 Morris, Tina via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Illissa,
>>> The mixer is at 5pm Sunday, this allows people to network and prepare
>>> for the week. Sunday also has a hackathon, registration, and often a
>>> welcome social. NANOG has a very compressed schedule and another time would
>>> actually mean that the women participating would have to pick between this
>>> event and another event or talk  that may be critical to their job
>>> function, which is also unfair.
>>>
>>> We are advertising this mixer to make sure all are aware and can attend,
>>> and the mixers will  be on the schedule at the same approximate time at
>>> each meeting going forward.
>>>
>>> I hope we will see you there.
>>>
>>> Tina Morris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2024, at 14:12, Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.scott at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>> > While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary
>>> caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families
>>> a day early.  I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have
>>> missed the mark.
>>>
>>> The hackathon has for (as far as I’ve known about it) been on Sunday. I
>>> don’t work on Sundays - it’s a day for my family (unless the almighty pager
>>> goes off), so I’ve never gone - even though it’s one of the parts of NANOG
>>> I’d enjoy, and would benefit from the most.
>>>
>>> There are tradeoffs for everything - perhaps the idea was to keep the
>>> women’s mixer separate from the other evening events, so that those who
>>> wish to participate, can do all of the evening events, and not have to give
>>> up anything, at the cost of the extra day. That being said, I agree, moving
>>> more to Sunday is not an acceptable answer to me.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> -Thomas Scott
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2024 at 1:45:07 PM, Ilissa Miller <ilissa at imillerpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG
>>>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG
>>>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all
>>>> of the young professional women
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>>> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG
>>>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG
>>>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all
>>>> of the young professional women who would like to participate in NANOG.
>>>> While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers
>>>> for families and this will require them to desert their families a day
>>>> early.  I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed
>>>> the mark.
>>>>
>>>> The amount of times I hear people complain about having to leave their
>>>> families is one of the reasons this industry has a problem keeping young
>>>> people - especially women.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else feel the same?
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