IP range for lease

Tue Jul 11 17:05:16 UTC 2023

Owen, BIll - 

Might I suggest moving this entire discussion over to ARIN’s ppml, as not everyone on nanog list necessary wants to spent their time reading about IP registry policy…?

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 1:02 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:47 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
>>> – Leasing of IP address blocks independent of connectivity is not explicitly recognized in ARIN number resource policy (i.e. there is no policy that specifically allows or prohibits such activity.)
>> 
>> Correct me if I am wrong here, but in general, that which is not explicitly prohibited is implicitly allowed.
> 
> Hi Owen,
> 
> You're wrong-ish. "Address leasing" is not prohibited per se, it just
> doesn't count as in-use for the utilization requirements.
> 
> Consider Amazon AWS. You can have an "elastic IP address" that's not
> attached to a running server. If it stays that way for most of the
> month, they charge you for it explicitly rather than wrap it up in the
> general server charge. In other words, they lease the address without
> any associated connectivity.
> 
> Is that address in use per ARIN policy? I don't think it is. Has ARIN
> ever asked Amazon to detail the number of elastic IP addresses that
> are not actually in use when it sought more addresses? Probably not.
> Should they have? Only if there's reason to believe that there are a
> large enough number of such addresses to make a difference. Otherwise
> it's purposeless paperwork.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> -- 
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/