Google Speed Test

Tue Jan 3 16:17:24 UTC 2023

Totally see your perspective. I'd say that's pretty unique to your space
though, given the majority of (domestic) fixed broadband customers don't
have that choice.

But completely understand what you are saying.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:05 AM Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:

> SLAs are irrelevant to customer perception, only to bean counters.
>
> Few to no residential-class services have an SLA whatsoever, yet they'll
> be the most demanding at any perceived slight.
>
> Stand by your SLA all you want, but if a customer's expectations
> (realistic or not) aren't met, they'll not only leave, but they'll tell
> everyone else how terrible you are.
>
> From a sales perspective, if you can demonstrate that a competitor network
> cannot do something and that you can with tooling a layperson understands
> and trusts, you've made big progress.
>
> I've visited friends and employees homes and found that while plugged in,
> a streaming service could not send a single stream at full resolution
> without buffering. It would be nice to show numbers (not just a feeling)
> that the other service could only deliver X megabit, while your service
> could deliver Y megabit.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Jared Mauch" <jared at puck.nether.net>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net>
> *Cc: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher at beecher.cc>, "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 3, 2023 9:46:16 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Google Speed Test
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> On Tue, Jan 03, 2023 at 09:31:27AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > Is there enough available capacity for {insert whatever the customer is
> trying to do here}.
> >
> > Can they run 4 YouTubeTV streams or can they run 20?
> > Can they download a file at 5 megabits/s or 15 gigabits/s?
> >
> >
> > There's not a problem to be solved, but information of a variety of
> types to be gleaned for a variety of purposes.
>
>         Most SLAs only cover on-net services, I recommend having a good
> on-net server for testing purposes and knowing your immediate upstream
> and peer upstreams test points.  I do recommend that most carriers have
> an iperf3/iperf2 test point.  You may find your carriers have one as
> well, even if it's not listed in their support pages.
>
>         I've found this useful when you suspect some problem, including
> a link hashing problem that only impacts a few flows.
>
>         - jared
>
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