[External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023

Tue Sep 20 03:57:07 UTC 2022

An important detail in the CI case is that there was no PDP based change in the policy text, AFRINIC simply suddenly contradicted their own prior statements and began (mid)interpreting their own governing documents to say things that they don’t actually say. 

Owen

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 19:49, John Gilmore <gnu at toad.com> wrote:
> 
> John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> [challenges by legacy registrants] has been before judges and resolved
>> numerous times.
>> 
>> We’ve actually had the matter before many judges, and have never been
>> ordered to do anything other than operate the registry per the number
>> resource policy as developed by this community – this has been the
>> consistent outcome throughout both civil and bankruptcy
>> proceedings.
> 
> Is there a public archive of these court proceedings?  Or even a list
> of which cases have involved ARIN (or another RIR)?
> 
> What can the community learn from what help resource holders have asked
> courts for, and what help they eventually got?
> 
>    John
> 
> PS: Re another RIR: There's a short list of some of the ~50 lawsuits
> against AFRINIC in its Wikipedia page:
> 
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFRINIC#Controversies_&_Scandals
> 
> These are mostly to do with corruption, theft, and harassment.  But an
> important subtheme includes what power AFRINIC has to seize IP addresses
> that were legitimately allocated to recipients.  In the "Cloud
> Innovation" case, CI got addresses under standard policy, but years
> later, as I recall, AFRINIC tried to retroactively impose a new "no
> renting vm's" policy and a new requirement that all the addresses be
> hosted in Africa, even by global customers.  After AFRINIC threatened to
> immediately revoke CI's membership and take back the addresses over
> this, CI sued AFRINIC to keep the status quo, keeping their business
> alive, while the courts sort out whether AFRINIC has the power to do so.
> Since then, it's mostly been procedural scuffling and some bad faith
> negotiations.  If neither party goes bankrupt nor settles, it's possible
> that the courts of Mauritius will answer the question about whether
> their RIR has the power to impose new policies and then reclaim
> allocated addresses for violating them.