[External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023)

Sun Sep 18 18:12:23 UTC 2022

> On Sep 15, 2022, at 21:09 , Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us <mailto:bill at herrin.us>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:51 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>>> Well, I'm one of the people who'd publish RPKI records for my /23 if I
>>>> had the ability to do so and I definitely would NOT pay merit $595/yr
>>>> (let alone $1k or $2k) to gain that ability. YMMV but I'm willing to
>>>> bet there's not enough money out there to fund it with direct user
>>>> fees and even if there was, the level of participation in the presence
>>>> of more than trivial user fees would be too low to be worth the
>>>> effort.
>>> 
>>> Your /23 is worth only USD 30k, so you are definitely not in a
>>> position to find that affordable.
>>> It seems ARIN LRSA with the current fees and caps would be the best
>>> option, and that option has a time limit.
>> 
>> No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate
>> in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a shame.
> 
> That's only true in the current environment where RPKI is only used to
> invalidate bogus routes. When any reachability for RPKI-unknowns is
> lost, that will change. But it will be too late then to join the
> system, so you just sell it for USD 50k and start using NAT.

I think that the likelihood of that happening while IPv4 is still important is very near 0%.

> Just a calculation: current LRSA fee is USD 150, cap is 25 USD per
> year increase. 2X-Small is USD 500 per year, so it will take 14 years
> to reach that level. Pick your poison, NAT or LRSA.

Neither… I am pretty convinced that neither one will be necessary.

Owen

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