Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Mar 29 21:09:37 UTC 2022


> On Mar 26, 2022, at 17:30 , Masataka Ohta <mohta at necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
> 
>> It still looks like NAT to me.
> 
> Almost all the people, perhaps other than you, accept NAT
> as is to keep IPv4 Internet or as part of transition
> plan from IPv4 to IPv6.
> 
>> NAT is a disgusting hack and destroys the universal peer to peer
>> nature of the internet in favor of a consumer/provider model.
> 
> As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving
> the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet.

Nope… It really isn’t.

The problem of audit trail opacity is still a major issue with any form
of stateful NAT.

Owen



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