Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported

Joe Maimon jmaimon at jmaimon.com
Sun Mar 27 04:42:34 UTC 2022


james.cutler at consultant.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Masataka Ohta <mohta at necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
>> Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
>>
>>> It still looks like NAT to me.
>> Almost all the people, perhaps other than you, accept NAT
>> as is to keep IPv4 Internet or as part of transition
>> plan from IPv4 to IPv6.
>>
>>> NAT is a disgusting hack and destroys the universal peer to peer
>>> nature of the internet in favor of a consumer/provider model.
>> As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving
>> the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet.
>>
>> 	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ohta-e2e-nat-00
>>
>> The basic idea is to let NAT boxes perform address translations
>> only without adjusting check sums or translating ports and
>> to let end systems perform reverse address translations,
>> which restores correct check sums, and port number
>> restrictions.
>>
>> 						Masataka Ohta
> I have yet to find an economical way to manage a business merger involving two large rfc1918 networks where end to end peering is required and which partially or fully overlap. Ignoring short-sighted financial management views, the best long term solution is globally unique IPv6 addressing wherever possible. Local islands of IPv4 gatewayed or NATted with local management continue to be possible.
>
In other words, once its merger time, IPv6 fixes nothing.

Can one really incentivize an enterprise to standardize on IPv6 on the 
basis of it will make a future merger much more economical? And this is 
well before any such prospect usually exists.

Is there any activity that enterprises choose to engage in on that basis?

Joe


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