ISP data collection from home routers

Thu Mar 24 13:49:27 UTC 2022

Friends only Facebook?  Do you think Facebook, the company with the data,
cares if you have a particular flag set???

Who cares about the SSID???

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 9:40 AM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <
lb at 6by7.net> wrote:

> Without disagreeing that privacy concerns in general are rapidly becoming
> extinct with generations…
>
> Surely you are not suggesting that my friends-only Facebook profile is
> somehow publishing my WiFi SSID?
>
> (For example)
>
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
> CEO
> lb at 6by7.net
> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company
> in the world.”
>
> FCC License KJ6FJJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149.
>
> On Mar 24, 2022, at 6:26 AM, Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm surprised we're having this discussion about an internet device that
> the customer is using to publicize all of their information on Facebook and
> Twitter.  Consumers do not care enough about their privacy to the point
> where they are providing the information willingly.
>
> >Consumers should have legal say in how or wether their data are harvested
> and also sold.
>
> They do. https://www.fcc.gov/general/customer-privacy
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 9:12 AM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <
> lb at 6by7.net> wrote:
>
>> This is an enormous problem, see:
>> https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/10/ftc-staff-report-finds-many-internet-service-providers-collect-troves-personal-data-users-have-few
>>
>> Consumers should have legal say in how or wether their data are harvested
>> and also sold.
>>
>> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
>> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
>> CEO
>> lb at 6by7.net
>> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company
>> in the world.”
>>
>> FCC License KJ6FJJ
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149.
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG <
>> nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> Several years ago, a friend of mine was working for a large telco and his
>> job was to detect which clients had the worst networking experience.
>>
>> To do that, the telco had this hadoop cluster, where it collected _tons_
>> of data from home users routers, and his job was to use ML to tell the
>> signal from the noise.
>>
>> I remember seeing a sample csv from this data, which contained
>> _thousands_ of data fields (features) from each client.
>>
>> I was _shocked_ by the amount of (meta)data they are able to pull from
>> home routers. These even included your wifi network name _and_ password!
>> (it's been several years since then).
>>
>> And home users are _completely_ unaware of this.
>>
>> So my question to you folks is:
>>
>> - What's the policy regulations on this? I don't remember the features
>> (thousands) but I'm pretty sure you could some profiling with it.
>>
>> - Is anyone aware of any public discussion on this? I have never seen it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Giovane Moura
>>
>>
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