V6 still not supported Re: 202203181218.AYC

Fri Mar 18 16:43:36 UTC 2022

Dear Borg:

1)    " ... I dont see a way of extending IPv4 without making it a new 
protocol.  ... new IP protocol that is much more similar to IPv4, just 
extends address space. ... ": I believe that you will be pleasantly 
surprised at the proposal summarized by the the below whitepaper. It 
proposes an overlay architecture over the current Internet. As such, 
assignable IPv4 addresses are extended without the baggage of the 
current Internet and no new protocol. To begin the deployment, all need 
be done is "*/disabling/* the program code that has been */disabling/* 
the use of the 240/4 netblock" in routers.

https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf

2)    The "transition" will be mostly transparent from ordinary users' 
point of view, because IoTs do not need be reprogrammed. Please feel 
free to ask me to describe specific issues that you may come across.

Regards,

Abe (2022-03-18 12:43)

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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:36:40 +0100 (CET)
From:borg at uu3.net
To:nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
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While Im dont like IPv6, I see it as a bad idea.
>From my knowledge I dont see a way of extending IPv4 without making it
a new protocol. It was not designed that way.

What I would LOVE to see that someone will pop in with new IP protocol
that is much more similar to IPv4, just extends address space and fixes
some well know issues. (for example remove netmask and use prefixlen/CIDR).

Other importand aspect is some kind of IPvX -> IPv4 interop, so you can
quickly put clients into new protocol and they have access to entire IPv4
internet out of the box.

Also, we need to please enterprises so we need largish RFC1918 space too.

Just my 2 cents again

---------- Original message ----------

From: Matt Hoppes<mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>
To: Joe Maimon<jmaimon at jmaimon.com>,bzs at theworld.com,
     Tom Beecher<beecher at beecher.cc>
Cc: NANOG<nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:34:19 -0500

At this point I would*love*  to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch applied
to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death.

> Its not impossible to envision that IPv4 does not ever go away but actually
> gets extended in such a way that it obsoletes IPv6. The longer this drags out
> the less implausible it seems.
>
> Joe
>
>

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