"Permanent" DST

Keith Stokes keiths at salonbiz.com
Tue Mar 15 22:53:33 UTC 2022

There are plenty of arguments that the existing school hours aren’t best for educating children so the better answer might be to make school hours match later daylight hours.

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com> wrote:
> They don't want their names on it when what happened in the 70s happens again. The effect of setting everything to DST and staying there is that in the winter, especially in the norther latitude it will be pitch dark during most of the morning when children get picked up at school bus stops. When the tragedy happens again, and it will, they will end up undoing this again...
> History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, then as a farce...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox.com at nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:30 PM
> To: Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org list <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
> Oh.  This was "Unanimous Consent"?  AKA "I want to vote for this, but *I do not want to be held responsible for having voted for it when it blows up*?"
> I'd missed that; thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher at beecher.cc>
>> To: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "nanog at nanog.org list" <nanog at nanog.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:04:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
>> I would say if something passes the United States Senate in our 
>> current political environment by unanimous consent (which this did) , 
>> I kinda feel like there won't be a ton of issues with everybody 
>> figuring out how to line themselves up appropriately.
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That is true but at present everything business related in BC has a 
>>> clear expectation of being in the same time zone as WA/OR/CA, and AB 
>>> matches US Mountain time.
>>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 13:35, Paul Ebersman <list-nanog2 at dragon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> eric> If Canada doesn't do the same thing at the same time, it'll be 
>>>> eric> a real hassle, dealing with a change from -8 to -7 crossing 
>>>> eric> the border between BC and WA, for instance. It has to be done 
>>>> eric> consistently throughout North America.
>>>> You must not have ever dealt with Indiana, where it was DST or not 
>>>> by choice per county. It wasn't quite the cluster***k you'd think.
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