Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Dorn Hetzel dorn at
Wed Mar 2 23:42:40 UTC 2022

One hopes there is some respectable, perhaps even paranoid, encryption on
his control functions.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 6:41 PM Mike <mike+lists at> wrote:

> You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack starlink in
> space, they are going to take over it's command and control functions and
> deorbit the entire constellation without firing a shot. Same for China and
> N. Korea, which both already have ample motivation already to go after
> starlink because of the existential threat to the iron fisted control they
> exert over their populace and the free flow of information. So while musk
> may be able to fly 50 at a time and has his own launch capability, if the
> command and control facilities are hijacked, musk will run out of money
> putting it all back together.
> On 3/2/22 1:28 PM, Scott McGrath wrote:
> The Russians have several ASAT systems not all of them are ground based.
> Remember they also have that grappler which locks onto satellites and
> destroys them.     I think this conflict will be the first one where some
> of the battles will be fought in orbit ie the ultimate ‘high ground’ the
> NATO countries have kept to the UN treaties on not militarizing space.
>  Other countries well not so much
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:35 PM Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks at>
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said:
>> > Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill,
>> and
>> > SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up....  Yes,
>> > Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio.
>> Plus  the asymmetry is even worse than that....
>> Elon can use that *same* first stage booster to launch *another* 50
>> next week, while the Russians need to get a *new* booster for shooting
>> down the next bird.
>> That's the *real* game changer in what SpaceX is doing....
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