Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Mike mike+lists at
Wed Mar 2 23:39:02 UTC 2022

You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack starlink 
in space, they are going to take over it's command and control functions 
and deorbit the entire constellation without firing a shot. Same for 
China and N. Korea, which both already have ample motivation already to 
go after starlink because of the existential threat to the iron fisted 
control they exert over their populace and the free flow of information. 
So while musk may be able to fly 50 at a time and has his own launch 
capability, if the command and control facilities are hijacked, musk 
will run out of money putting it all back together.

On 3/2/22 1:28 PM, Scott McGrath wrote:
> The Russians have several ASAT systems not all of them are ground 
> based.   Remember they also have that grappler which locks onto 
> satellites and destroys them.     I think this conflict will be the 
> first one where some of the battles will be fought in orbit ie the 
> ultimate ‘high ground’ the NATO countries have kept to the UN treaties 
> on not militarizing space.    Other countries well not so much
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:35 PM Valdis Klētnieks 
> <valdis.kletnieks at> wrote:
>     On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said:
>     > Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they
>     kill, and
>     > SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up.... 
>     Yes,
>     > Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio.
>     Plus  the asymmetry is even worse than that....
>     Elon can use that *same* first stage booster to launch *another* 50
>     next week, while the Russians need to get a *new* booster for shooting
>     down the next bird.
>     That's the *real* game changer in what SpaceX is doing....
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