Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Dorn Hetzel dorn at
Wed Mar 2 13:51:05 UTC 2022

Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill, and
SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up....  Yes,
Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 6:03 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach at> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:59 AM Scott McGrath <smcgrath at> wrote:
>> Starlink however forgets that Russia does have anti satellite weapons and
>> they probably will not hesitate to use them which will make low earth orbit
>> a very dangerous place when Russia starts blowing up the Starlink birds.
>> I applaud the humanitarian aspect of providing Starlink service,
>> unfortunately there are geopolitical realities like access to space which
>> is likely to be negatively impacted if and when Russia starts shooting down
>> these birds.    Fortunately if they start shooting down the birds the
>> debris will burn up in a year or so unlike geosync orbit where it would
>> stay forever.
> Anti-satellite weapons hearken from the NASA-era of satellite launches,
> which cost hundreds of millions of dollars, were planned years if not
> decades
> in advance, and would take an equivalent amount of time and money to
> replace if shot down.
> Note SpaceX's response when 40 out of 49 satellites were fried shortly
> after
> launch due to recent solar activity:
> Pretty much just a "ho hum, s**t happens, we'll make sure they burn up
> safely and don't hit anything on the way down."
> And then they launched another 46 birds three weeks later:
> and a week after that, launched another 50 birds:
> Sure, Russia could start shooting them down.
> But at the rate SpaceX can build and launch them, in that war of
> attrition, I'd put my money on SpaceX, not Russia--and it would
> let everyone in the world get a very detailed map of exactly what
> the capabilities and limitations of Russia's anti-satelite weaponry
> are as they fired it off dozens if not hundreds of times in a relatively
> short time period.
> I think people are just now waking up to how radically SpaceX has
> changed access to space.   ^_^;
> Matt
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