What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

Fri Jan 28 13:42:26 UTC 2022

I also think the complexities, requirements, tolerances, etc. of an EPC are also being understated in the thread. The difference being is that I am aware (and stated as such) that I'm understating Netflix's usage. The other side doesn't know how particular EPCs can be. 

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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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The Brothers WISP 

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From: "Josh Baird" <joshbaird at gmail.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net> 
Cc: "Michael Thomas" <mike at mtcc.com>, "nanog group" <nanog at nanog.org> 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 7:22:50 AM 
Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? 

I think Netflix's usage of AWS is being understated here. 

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:29 AM Mike Hammett < nanog at ics-il.net > wrote: 

There's a big difference between a website (admittedly a complex one) and a mobile core. 

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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

From: "Michael Thomas" < mike at mtcc.com > 
To: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:54:57 PM 
Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? 

On 1/26/22 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/22 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote: 
> 
>> 
>> Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when 
>> the Magic Cloud provider fails in a way that isn't possible to 
>> anticipate because it's all black box. 
>> 
>> Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great, except when you lose 18 
>> months of opex $ in 2 days completely outside of your ability to 
>> control. 
> 
> I don't disagree. 
> 
> What this does, though, is democratize access into the industry. For a 
> simple business model that is serving a small community with a handful 
> of eyeballs, not trying to grow forever but put food on the table, 
> it's somewhere to start. 
> 
Didn't Netflix for the longest time run on AWS? I imagine if I were 
talking to a VC these days and said the first thing I was going to do is 
rack up a bunch of servers, I'd get laughed at. Cloud makes sense until 
it doesn't make sense. Just like everything else. 

Mike 

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