New minimum speed for US broadband connections

Josh Luthman josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
Fri Feb 11 20:33:58 UTC 2022


OK the one example you provided has gigabit fiber though.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 8:41 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> Can you provide examples?
>>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twe6uTwOyJo&ab_channel=NANOG
>
> Our good friend Jared could only get 1.5M DSL living just outside Ann
> Arbor, MI, so he had to start his own CLEC.
>
> I have friends in significantly more rural areas than he lives in (
> Niagara and Orleans county NYS , between Niagara Falls and Rochester ) who
> have the same 400Mb package from Spectrum that I do, living in the City of
> Niagara Falls.
>
> This is not to say that rural America is a mecca of connectivity; there is
> a long way to go all the way around regardless. But it is a direct example
> as you asked for.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:57 PM Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
>> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
>>
>> Can you provide examples?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jun 2, 2021, at 02:10 , Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/2/21 11:04, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I disagree… If it could be forced into a standardized format using a
>>> standardized approach to data acquisition and reliable comparable results
>>> across providers, it could be a very useful adjunct to real competition.
>>> >
>>> > If we can't even agree on what "minimum speed for U.S. broadband
>>> connections" actually means, fat chance having a "nutritional facts" at the
>>> back of the "Internet in a tea cup" dropped off at your door step.
>>> >
>>> > I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm just saying that easily goes down
>>> the "what color should we use for the bike shed" territory, while people in
>>> rural America still have no or poor Internet access.
>>> >
>>> > Mark.
>>>
>>> ROFLMAO…
>>>
>>> People in Rural America seem to be doing just fine. Most of the ones I
>>> know at least have GPON or better.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, here in San Jose, a city that bills itself as “The Capital of
>>> Silicon Valley”, the best I can get is Comcast (which does finally purport
>>> to be Gig down), but rarely delivers that.
>>>
>>> Yes, anything involving the federal government will get the full bike
>>> shed treatment no matter what we do.
>>>
>>> There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
>>> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
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