New minimum speed for US broadband connections

Fri Feb 11 13:41:27 UTC 2022

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> Can you provide examples?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twe6uTwOyJo&ab_channel=NANOG

Our good friend Jared could only get 1.5M DSL living just outside Ann
Arbor, MI, so he had to start his own CLEC.

I have friends in significantly more rural areas than he lives in ( Niagara
and Orleans county NYS , between Niagara Falls and Rochester ) who have the
same 400Mb package from Spectrum that I do, living in the City of Niagara
Falls.

This is not to say that rural America is a mecca of connectivity; there is
a long way to go all the way around regardless. But it is a direct example
as you asked for.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:57 PM Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> >There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
>
> Can you provide examples?
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> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
> wrote:
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>> > On Jun 2, 2021, at 02:10 , Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
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>> > On 6/2/21 11:04, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> >> I disagree… If it could be forced into a standardized format using a
>> standardized approach to data acquisition and reliable comparable results
>> across providers, it could be a very useful adjunct to real competition.
>> >
>> > If we can't even agree on what "minimum speed for U.S. broadband
>> connections" actually means, fat chance having a "nutritional facts" at the
>> back of the "Internet in a tea cup" dropped off at your door step.
>> >
>> > I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm just saying that easily goes down
>> the "what color should we use for the bike shed" territory, while people in
>> rural America still have no or poor Internet access.
>> >
>> > Mark.
>>
>> ROFLMAO…
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>> People in Rural America seem to be doing just fine. Most of the ones I
>> know at least have GPON or better.
>>
>> Meanwhile, here in San Jose, a city that bills itself as “The Capital of
>> Silicon Valley”, the best I can get is Comcast (which does finally purport
>> to be Gig down), but rarely delivers that.
>>
>> Yes, anything involving the federal government will get the full bike
>> shed treatment no matter what we do.
>>
>> There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
>> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
>>
>> Owen
>>
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