the ipv4 vs ipv6 growth debate

Jorge Amodio jmamodio at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 17:31:49 UTC 2022


With IPv6Foo you can click on the icon and it will show you a table listing
what URLs are serving some piece of a given page with v6 and v4.

LinkedIn for example shows the main feed page served via v6 but there are a
couple of pieces with v4 from these sites

- dpm.demdex.net
- lnkd.demdex.net
- p.adsymptotic.com
- radar.cedexis.com
- sb.scorecardresearch.com
- trkn.us

Some may be feeding ads content, others tracking, market research, etc.

Regards
Jorge

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:09 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> Often lost in the 'debate' about V6 adoption is that for a 100% native
> IPv6 experience to work, there are multiple other components that have
> nothing to do with the network that ALSO have to work correctly. Any issues
> with these are likely going to cause fallback to v4.
>
> It's very difficult to know how much v4 traffic to a website COULD have
> worked just fine on v6, but didn't, and why it didn't.
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 7:16 PM Matt Corallo <nanog at as397444.net> wrote:
>
>> It would be nice if IPvFoo showed the bytes and connection/request count.
>> It's going to be a
>> loonnggg time before we can do consumer internet browsing with no v4,
>> until then it's about reducing
>> cost of CGNAT with reduced packets/connections.
>>
>> For twitter, the main site is v4, yea, but abs.twimg.net (Edgecast) and
>> pbs.twimg.net (Fastly) make
>> up the vast majority of the bytes fetched on the site for me and are both
>> v6 now. I don't recall
>> when I last checked but they were still v4-only not too long ago.
>>
>> The other end of it is v6-only servers that don't accept inbound
>> connections. Thos have been
>> hampered IME by github not serving git over v6. Supposedly it's coming
>> soon but so much modern
>> software fetches stuff from Github that that's a major blocker.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 11/27/22 7:44 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> >
>> > I use the same extension on Chrome.
>> >
>> > I'm surprised that with all the recent hoopla about it, from the major
>> social media platforms,
>> > Twitter still shows serving their http site over IPv4, Facebook and
>> LinkedIn show solid IPv6.
>> >
>> > -J
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com <mailto:
>> dave.taht at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I use a web plugin tool called ipvfoo to track my actual ipv4 vis
>> ipv6
>> >     usage. I wish it worked over time. With very few exceptions I am
>> still
>> >     regularly calling ipv4 addresses in most webpages. Has anyone done a
>> >     more organized study of say, the top 1 million, and how many still
>> >     require at least some ipv4 to exist, and those trends over time?
>> >
>> >     --
>> >     This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>> >
>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>> >     <
>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>> >
>> >     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> >
>>
>
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