[External] Re: Google Abuse

Tom Beecher beecher at beecher.cc
Wed Aug 17 16:19:54 UTC 2022


>
> some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news
> outlets.
>

That conclusion, based on the methodology described, would be wrong, and
that should be called out.



On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 12:09 PM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog at uah.edu> wrote:

> Sure, that's why I said that in my third paragraph.
>
> But once we know that they do, in fact, filter messages, we can
> understand why it might *seem* like they filter based on political
> content.
> For example, if a left-leaning news outlet uses bit.ly URLs, and a
> right-leaning one uses goo.gl URLs, and T-Mo filters all goo.gl URLs,
> some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news
> outlets."
>
> --
> Hunter Fuller (they)
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>
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> Network Engineering
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:06 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:
> >
> > Spam filtering is clearly not the accusation that was laid out.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog at uah.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wouldn't call it a serious claim. By their own admission T-Mobile
> >> filters messages based on content.
> >>
> >>
> https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/can-t-send-receive-texts-that-contain-goo-gl-7776
> >>
> >> Now, there is no indication I'm aware of, that it is political in
> >> nature. But they do, factually, throw away messages based on their
> >> content.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hunter Fuller (they)
> >> Router Jockey
> >> VBH M-1C
> >> +1 256 824 5331
> >>
> >> Office of Information Technology
> >> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> >> Network Engineering
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:46 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It's a pretty serious claim to say that cell providers were
> selectively not delivering messages based on content.
> >> >
> >> > Unless you have some more concrete evidence beyond "I sent a few
> texts" , this list is no place for such things, nor the insinuation of
> political agendas.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr at 757.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > They may tell you they are not but there is no doubt in my mind
> they are and
> >> >> > if they got caught their response would be “Oopsie, my bad”.
> >> >> > -richey
> >> >>
> >> >> During Covid hysteria cellular carriers were definitly scrubbing text
> >> >> messages that contained things against whatever the agenda was.
> >> >>
> >> >> There was no errors from the cellular carriers that the message
> didn't go
> >> >> through, it just never arrived to the destination. Tested it first
> hand,
> >> >> T-Mobile to Verizon, T-Mobile to AT&T and vice versa. Payload was
> links to
> >> >> a few websites that weren't popular with the left, like that Doctor
> Robert
> >> >> Malone guy. These were not using URL shorteners that are sometimes
> >> >> considered spam.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>                         - Ethan
>
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